Kipp, One more flower for you. This was seen in mi-April of this year at San Bruno Mountain Park up at the top on the ridge trail. Are they wild - I cannot find anything that comes close. Michael Drake On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:19 PM, Michael Drake <drakee52@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you! > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Kipp McMichael <kimcmich@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> >> Flower size is a very plastic character - and this year's flowering >> season has gotten a later-than-usual start so that character may not be >> particularly informative for this season's bloom. A hybrid would be >> possible considering he ranges of the 2 taxa overlap at Lassen... but the >> flower itself looks like a somewhat pale C. nudus. >> >> >> Calochortus always show a broad variation within species when it comes >> to flower color and size and form. In the case of flower color, the age of >> the flower as well as temperatures when the flower is open can determine >> coloration. I mention this because finding an atypical flower is often >> expected for a species rather then necessarily being evidence for >> hybridization. That said, hybrids are common too. >> >> >> I would wager Lassen hosts both C. minimus and C. nudus (and given the >> similarity of the taxa, observations may have already been made but >> mis-identified - this is very common for Calochortus). >> >> >> -|<ipp >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> on behalf of >> Michael Drake <drakee52@gmail.com> >> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 5:51 PM >> To: Pacific Bulb Society >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Calochortus minimus/nudus/hybrid/ >> >> Kipp, >> >> I live on the East Coast so I have no prior experience of either species. >> These plants appear more consistent with C minimus in size - very small - >> and colour based on pictures and plant descriptions I have seen. >> >> The park biologist at Lassen suggested the possibility of a hybrid as he >> indicated these two species are known to hybridise. >> >> Michael Drake >> >> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Kipp McMichael <kimcmich@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Greetings, >> > >> > >> > These look to be C. nudus to me. C. minimus is usually pale white. The >> > ranges of both are certainly close to Lassen. What makes you think they >> may >> > be C. minimus or a hybrid? >> > >> > >> > -|<ipp >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> on behalf of >> Michael >> > Drake <drakee52@gmail.com> >> > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 3:07 PM >> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> > Subject: [pbs] Calochortus minimus/nudus/hybrid/ >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > We recently had the good fortune to spend a few days at Mt Lassen >> National >> > Park in northern CA. >> > >> > On August 20th, on the trail from Cold Boiling Lake to Crumbaugh Lake, I >> > saw the attached Mariposa Lilies. >> > >> > They were growing along a wooded, partially sunny trail a little below >> > 7000'. >> > >> > As far as I can tell, they are C minimus, Sierra Mariposa Lily. >> > >> > However the plant list for the park only lists C. nudus, Naked Mariposa >> > Lily. >> > >> > The park naturalist indicates that without a specimen, it is impossible >> to >> > tell whether this is a new species for the park (C minimus), >> > or a hybrid of C minmus and C nudus. >> > >> > Do any of you have any thoughts on this? I could not find anything >> > published online about hybrids of these species and how to identify >> them. >> > >> > Any help would be appreciated. >> > >> > Michael Drake >> > -------------- next part -------------- >> > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> > Name: P1130739.JPG >> > Type: image/jpeg >> > Size: 909837 bytes >> > Desc: not available >> > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… >> > 20170918/30c4e11f/attachment.jpe> >> > -------------- next part -------------- >> > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> > Name: P1130740.JPG >> > Type: image/jpeg >> > Size: 4958720 bytes >> > Desc: not available >> > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… >> > 20170918/30c4e11f/attachment-0001.jpe> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > pbs mailing list >> > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> > pbs Info Page - pbs -- Pacific Bulb Society<http://lists.com/. >> > http://pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/…> >> > lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> > Pacific Bulb Society Mailing List Welcome to an Internet discussion >> forum >> > on bulbs, sponsored by the Pacific Bulb Society, for people around the >> > world. >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > pbs mailing list >> > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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