Thank you! On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Kipp McMichael <kimcmich@hotmail.com> wrote: > Greetings, > > > Flower size is a very plastic character - and this year's flowering > season has gotten a later-than-usual start so that character may not be > particularly informative for this season's bloom. A hybrid would be > possible considering he ranges of the 2 taxa overlap at Lassen... but the > flower itself looks like a somewhat pale C. nudus. > > > Calochortus always show a broad variation within species when it comes > to flower color and size and form. In the case of flower color, the age of > the flower as well as temperatures when the flower is open can determine > coloration. I mention this because finding an atypical flower is often > expected for a species rather then necessarily being evidence for > hybridization. That said, hybrids are common too. > > > I would wager Lassen hosts both C. minimus and C. nudus (and given the > similarity of the taxa, observations may have already been made but > mis-identified - this is very common for Calochortus). > > > -|<ipp > > > ________________________________ > From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> on behalf of Michael > Drake <drakee52@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 5:51 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Calochortus minimus/nudus/hybrid/ > > Kipp, > > I live on the East Coast so I have no prior experience of either species. > These plants appear more consistent with C minimus in size - very small - > and colour based on pictures and plant descriptions I have seen. > > The park biologist at Lassen suggested the possibility of a hybrid as he > indicated these two species are known to hybridise. > > Michael Drake > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Kipp McMichael <kimcmich@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > > > These look to be C. nudus to me. C. minimus is usually pale white. The > > ranges of both are certainly close to Lassen. What makes you think they > may > > be C. minimus or a hybrid? > > > > > > -|<ipp > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> on behalf of > Michael > > Drake <drakee52@gmail.com> > > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 3:07 PM > > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > Subject: [pbs] Calochortus minimus/nudus/hybrid/ > > > > Hello, > > > > We recently had the good fortune to spend a few days at Mt Lassen > National > > Park in northern CA. > > > > On August 20th, on the trail from Cold Boiling Lake to Crumbaugh Lake, I > > saw the attached Mariposa Lilies. > > > > They were growing along a wooded, partially sunny trail a little below > > 7000'. > > > > As far as I can tell, they are C minimus, Sierra Mariposa Lily. > > > > However the plant list for the park only lists C. nudus, Naked Mariposa > > Lily. > > > > The park naturalist indicates that without a specimen, it is impossible > to > > tell whether this is a new species for the park (C minimus), > > or a hybrid of C minmus and C nudus. > > > > Do any of you have any thoughts on this? I could not find anything > > published online about hybrids of these species and how to identify them. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Michael Drake > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: P1130739.JPG > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 909837 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… > > 20170918/30c4e11f/attachment.jpe> > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: P1130740.JPG > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 4958720 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… > > 20170918/30c4e11f/attachment-0001.jpe> > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > pbs Info Page - pbs -- Pacific Bulb Society<http://lists.com/. > > http://pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/…> > > lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > Pacific Bulb Society Mailing List Welcome to an Internet discussion forum > > on bulbs, sponsored by the Pacific Bulb Society, for people around the > > world. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…