Hi, Christiaan has written again about a winter rainfall area in South Africa that gets colder than some of the other areas and therefore might be a source of material for people who could not successfully grow things from other areas. I've wished there was a field guide for this area so there would be an idea of what grows there. I created some wiki pages for the Roggeveld which includes Sutherland. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… Mary Sue