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Today's Topics:

1. Ledebouria cooperi (Shmuel Silinsky)
2. Dividing Clivia miniata (Shmuel Silinsky)
3. Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? (Judy Glattstein)
4. Re: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? (Mark Mazer)
5. Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder (Chad Cox)
6. Re: Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder (James SHIELDS)
7. Re: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? (Tim Eck)
8. Re: Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder (Mike Rummerfield)
9. Re: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? (From HK)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 04:35:11 -0500
From: Shmuel Silinsky <gardenbetter@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: [pbs] Ledebouria cooperi
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I live in Jersalem (USDA zone 9b) and my Ledebouria cooperi in a pot have
gone dormant (sort of). This is the first winter I have had them and am a
bit at a loss. Do I let them dry out completely? Also shoul d the bulbs be
buried completely of exposed like L socialis?

Duh. I just read the PBS page on Ledebouria
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… and it pretty
much answered my questions. One swhould always look there first. :)

Shmuel
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 04:41:51 -0500
From: Shmuel Silinsky <gardenbetter@gmail.com>
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Subject: [pbs] Dividing Clivia miniata
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I have a pretty crowded 5 gal bucket of Clivia miniata. When is best to
divide it? Now? After flowering? I would like flowers this year as I missed
them last year. (I was too late with the Measurol and they ended up snail
food.)

Shmuel

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:05:55 -0500
From: Judy Glattstein <jgglatt@gmail.com>
To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [pbs] Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers?
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Calling saffron "the world's most expensive spice," a BBC article:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37581228/ looks into what's
involved in raising and harvest saffron in New England's ski-centric
state of Vermont.

So perhaps we'll have our choice of imported-from-Afghanistan or
domestically-produced saffron. Paella for all!
Fahrenheit
Judy in the Garden State, where our weather is gleefully flip-flopping
from nighttime lows of 9 degrees Fahrenheit to a daytime high of 59
degrees fahrenheit a week later

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:57:06 -0500
From: Mark Mazer <markemazer@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers?
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The minimum wage in Iran is one fifth of Vermont's. The minimum wage in
Spain is half, and in Afghanistan 'tis one sixteenth. How would green
mountain state growers ever expect to compete since labor is the
significant factor in the cost of saffron production? The proposition
simply doesn't make much economic sense unless there is sufficiently
great value
added downstream.

No more crocus here. Rodents ate the entire collection within months of
our arrival. Then they feasted on the babiana, and then sparaxis.

Mark Mazer
Hertford, NC

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state

degrees

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:52:52 -0800
From: Chad Cox <clcox@ucdavis.edu>
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Subject: [pbs] Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder
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Thanks all for commiserating with me.
Fred I too have a house full of plants(some seedlings) but haven't
experimented with hybridization yet; my wife is already angry so I may have
to wait a bit on that plus I'm still waiting for one of my hippeastrum to
bloom. I'm hoping that will happen in Spring.
Rick I would have to say that the top of my list would be angustifolium,
closely followed by teyucuarense, brasilianum, morelianum, and argentinum
to start. The truth is I am fascinated by many of the rare species in this
genus and the fact that many are practically unheard of in cultivation
sparks my interest even more since I love challenges.
Mike thank you for calling to my attention that I suffer from yet
another condition, Clivia fever. I don't think I have it as badly as you
but I definitely have it. I've been looking for a nice red one for a long
time.
Jim yes I have both hippeastrum and clivia in my greenhouse too, but
was unable to limit myself to just those two and had to go get some
Phadranassa and Brunsvigia and Crinum and.... so unfortunately I'm running
out of space. I think I'm just crazy. A theory confirmed by my wife :-)

Chad in Elverta CA

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:09:26 -0500
From: James SHIELDS <jshields46074@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder
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Chad,

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Chad Cox <clcox@ucdavis.edu> wrote:

running

The obvious solution to our dilemma is to add more greenhouses. I am up to
four now.

Jim

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Westfield, IN 46074
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:27:17 -0500
From: "Tim Eck" <teck11@embarqmail.com>
To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers?
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Harvesting (and separation of the pistil from the bloom) is the only
work-intensive part and both are very amenable to 'robomation' using
hue-based image processing.

Tim Eck

significant

make

our

wrote:

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:47:09 -0800
From: Mike Rummerfield <mikerumm@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder
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" .... so unfortunately I'm running out of space. I think I'm just crazy. A
theory confirmed by my wife :-)"

Chad,
Yes - but such a wonderful crazy. Maybe time to put yourself into
irretrievable debt (and marital disharmony) to add on to that greenhouse?
Adding on to the house might be pushing it a bit. ?

I hope your Hippeastrum blooms this Spring.
Best of luck,
Mike

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Chad Cox <clcox@ucdavis.edu> wrote:

have

angustifolium,

this

running

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:30:40 -0500
From: From HK <hk@icarustrading.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers?
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Hue base image processing? Wow.

On Friday, January 13, 2017, Tim Eck <teck11@embarqmail.com> wrote:

in

doesn't

of

flip-flopping

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