> Logically why should seed production be so harmful to bulb > development? The longer it takes to produce seed, the longer foliage > is present in general and that has to a goods thing to over all energy > production. I agree the foliage ought be treated well for the best bulb growth. I think removing the seed heads (only) does help many plants. Some plants even die if you let them go to seed. Such plants are not evolved for long life of individuals. Bulbs do seem less likely to fall into that category. I don't generally worry about deadheading unless I know I want to bulk up the vegetation/bulb on an especially important plant or I know it likes to bloom/seed itself to death. I'm not much for providing "empirical data ". I'm not sure I can even think of a good example of a bulb that really (clearly) benefits from deadheading. I do still believe that part of the "wives tale". The foliage is very important to many. I don't think Jim was saying that if you cut the seed head the foliage dies sooner (I think he was saying people cut the foliage in the process of removing the seed heads). If seed head presence extended foliage health, I would need to reconsider my theories. I think it is the opposite. Eremurus himilaicus (spelling probably off) and lots of irises glorious these days, KellyO -- Kelly O'Neill Wet Rock Gardens Flower Farm U-Pick and more at the farm (open Sun, Wed, Fri 9-6 and by appointment other times and days): 2877 N 19th Street Springfield, Oregon 97477 To contact us: gardens@wetrock.com http://www.wetrock.com/ (541) 746-4444 Business Office for mail or by appointment only: 1950 Yolanda AVE Springfield, Oregon 97477