Bern wrote: > If they discover your plant import when it gets to the USA and they have the resources and will to do so, they could easily determine if you have a USDA permit. It's a worst case scenario, but I wouldn't take that chance. Not to mention, everything we write on this mail list, including our names, is archived online where the USDA or other authorities could easily read it. And in the past we've had USDA officials who were members of the list. So really if you plan to break the rules, it's not a good idea to brag about it here. Personally, I think it's easier in the long run to just cooperate with the rules. Not only do you remove the risk, if we cooperate with the USDA we have a better chance of getting their help when we need adjustments in the rules. Case in point, there is a little-known permit that gives you a way to import bulbs into the US without a phyto when you really can't get one. It's called a Controlled Import Permit, form 588. I haven't used it, but we've been told by USDA personnel in the past that it's an option for us. Mike San Jose, CA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> PBS Forum https://…