I, too, feel that we are VERY FORTUNATE to even have access to what Diana offers. If her website isn’t full of pop-ups of what someone in Florida bought, I’m happy. If she offers South African rarities? I’m even happier. Most folks don’t appreciate the labor of keeping a website, let alone running a nursery. I applaud Diana for all of her efforts. If I had to, I’d write notes and send a check to be able to acquire her stuff. I prefer a funky nursery vibe to a big enterprise any day. Bridget In SE PA where it just keeps snowing. But the heat is on so I have zero to complain about. The crated adonis is in full bloom in my heated barn and I have an Arisaema aequinoctiale coming into flower. Early but welcome. > On Feb 19, 2021, at 10:55 AM, Jose via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > "Technology has left a lot of people lazy..." > > And pretty dumb too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of > robert brockson via pbs > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 12:10 AM > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Cc: robert brockson <rdb144@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs > > Diana, I feel that your website is more than adequate and for me it's very > easy to navigate, determine cost and place an order. Any answers to price, > availability and shipping times are there on the site, you just have to > read. 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Re: Telos Rare Bulbs (Jan Jeddeloh) > 2. Re: Telos Rare Bulbs (Robert Lauf) > 3. Re: Telos Rare Bulbs (Leigh Blake) > 4. Re: Nothoscordum dialystemon (Jose) > 5. Re: Telos Rare Bulbs (Jose) > 6. Re: Telos Rare Bulbs (Diana Chapman) > 7. Telos Rare Bulbs (M Gastil-Buhl) > 8. Re: Telos Rare Bulbs (R Hansen) > 9. Re: Telos Rare Bulbs (John Willis) > 10. Re: Telos Rare Bulbs (John Willis) > 11. Re: Telos Rare Bulbs (Robert Parks) > 12. Re: Iris histrioides/A. belladonna (Jane McGary) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 15:17:05 -0800 > From: Jan Jeddeloh <janjeddeloh@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs > Message-ID: <CFE89428-610D-4D79-A349-2953218959B8@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > For great, unusual plants I?ll happily deal with a non-professionally > designed website. I?m hot after the plants not the graphic design. So as > long as I can figure out how to pick the plant and pay for it I?m good. > > Jan > >>> On Feb 17, 2021, at 2:47 PM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs >> <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> i think we can show our thanks to Diane and Robin by patronizing their > nurseries. >> Even if it's only a bulb or two. >> >> I heard a quote once about small specialist nurseries. >> How do you make some money with a specialist nursery? >> "Start with a lot of money" >> >> ArnoldSnow coming in NJ >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vlad Hempel via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> Cc: Vlad Hempel <vlad.hempel@gmail.com> >> Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2021 3:57 pm >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs >> >> If I may add my two cents: >> >> Diana, I find your website good enough for what it is. >> >> Being a bulb enthusiast myself and not from US, I took time to read > through >> the conditions (especially the international orders page). >> >> I think your request about name and address is essential. >> >> Please continue to offers these gems. There are hardly any place that > offer >> so many generas and species in one place. >> >> Greetings from Berlin, >> Vlad >> >> >> >> >> On Wed 17. Feb 2021 at 21:43 Diana Chapman via pbs < >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >>> Thank you, Robin. It has actually taken me the best part of three weeks >>> just to update the availability on the web site, and I still have the >>> greenhouses to take care of and orders to fill. As for hiring someone >>> to do it, I couldn't possibly afford it, and anyway, I tried some time >>> back to have someone make a cd of bulbs that I would provide to >>> customers and it was a total nightmare, she couldn't understand the >>> names, couldn't spell them, even with me going over them carefully, and >>> I finally abandoned it. So, if my web site is clunky and 'not modern', >>> that's the way it is. I have rarely had any complaints about it. >>> >>> Diana >>> Telos >>>> A suggestion that revamping our websites that would avoid questions and >>> other issues is great. But when you're a single proprietor with no paid >>> help and when revamping takes an incredible amount of time and resources, >>> it's much, much more difficult. We struggle along as best we can and make >>> changes as we can, but for me the last two years have been very difficult >>> due to family issues, a major move and other obligations. Oh, yes, and a >>> grandson who is no longer readily available... Given the pandemic and the >>> fact that we all have family, often elderly or otherwise needing >>> assistance, things don't happen as quickly or efficiently as they should. >>>> >>>> Right now I'm faced with at least updating some website information and >>> finding the time, let alone determining the best way to do it, can be >>> roadblocks in themselves. >>>> >>>> So, these upgrades will get done, but for specialist nurseries, these >>> take a lower priority than making sure we have unusual and/or rare plants >>> available for the plant lovers who support us. Personally, I'll put up > with >>> clunky websites to get what I want, knowing I can't get a plant anywhere >>> else nearly as easily. >>>> >>>> Robin Hansen >>>> Hansen Nursery >>>> In the southern wilds of Coos County, Oregon >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pbs mailing list >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117184258%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=bNcgBHyBx%2FcP82TtCXLIG > 0idi4TaLHWsq7kVODMJKZM%3D&reserved=0 >>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117184258%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=bNcgBHyBx%2FcP82TtCXLIG > 0idi4TaLHWsq7kVODMJKZM%3D&reserved=0 >>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117184258%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=bNcgBHyBx%2FcP82TtCXLIG > 0idi4TaLHWsq7kVODMJKZM%3D&reserved=0 >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117184258%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=bNcgBHyBx%2FcP82TtCXLIG > 0idi4TaLHWsq7kVODMJKZM%3D&reserved=0 >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 23:20:25 +0000 (UTC) > From: Robert Lauf <boblauf@att.net> > To: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs > Message-ID: <74749293.2681451.1613604025182@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > As a complete novice with many South African bulbs, I asked Diana if she > could put together a nice starter collection of Lachenalias for a given sum, > and she was happy to accommodate.? She sent an excellent assortment and > detailed growing directions, and every one is doing well.? Most are > blooming.? All this has helped solidify my growing bulb fanaticism. > > Yes, Amazon has a more advanced eCommerce platform, but all Amazon nurtures > is Amazon's bottom line.? There is no substitute for the small nursery and > the personal touch. > > You go girl! > > Bob? Zone 7 and waiting for the you-know-what to hit the fan tonight. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 15:21:48 -0800 > From: Leigh Blake <theonlyleigh@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs > Message-ID: > <CAFcVro2Yh7ZP0HPRe4ygBzukkcUFFpU6M1ET6h3e0s4=K9fM8A@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Great letters from you all...I have to say Jan Jeddeloh is correct,..I > agree...use common sense on all orders ..Thank you > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 3:17 PM Jan Jeddeloh via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > >> For great, unusual plants I?ll happily deal with a non-professionally >> designed website. I?m hot after the plants not the graphic design. So as >> long as I can figure out how to pick the plant and pay for it I?m good. >> >> Jan >> >>> On Feb 17, 2021, at 2:47 PM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs < >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >>> >>> i think we can show our thanks to Diane and Robin by patronizing their >> nurseries. >>> Even if it's only a bulb or two. >>> >>> I heard a quote once about small specialist nurseries. >>> How do you make some money with a specialist nursery? >>> "Start with a lot of money" >>> >>> ArnoldSnow coming in NJ >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Vlad Hempel via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> Cc: Vlad Hempel <vlad.hempel@gmail.com> >>> Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2021 3:57 pm >>> Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs >>> >>> If I may add my two cents: >>> >>> Diana, I find your website good enough for what it is. >>> >>> Being a bulb enthusiast myself and not from US, I took time to read >> through >>> the conditions (especially the international orders page). >>> >>> I think your request about name and address is essential. >>> >>> Please continue to offers these gems. There are hardly any place that >> offer >>> so many generas and species in one place. >>> >>> Greetings from Berlin, >>> Vlad >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed 17. Feb 2021 at 21:43 Diana Chapman via pbs < >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you, Robin. It has actually taken me the best part of three > weeks >>>> just to update the availability on the web site, and I still have the >>>> greenhouses to take care of and orders to fill. As for hiring someone >>>> to do it, I couldn't possibly afford it, and anyway, I tried some time >>>> back to have someone make a cd of bulbs that I would provide to >>>> customers and it was a total nightmare, she couldn't understand the >>>> names, couldn't spell them, even with me going over them carefully, and >>>> I finally abandoned it. So, if my web site is clunky and 'not modern', >>>> that's the way it is. I have rarely had any complaints about it. >>>> >>>> Diana >>>> Telos >>>>> A suggestion that revamping our websites that would avoid questions > and >>>> other issues is great. But when you're a single proprietor with no paid >>>> help and when revamping takes an incredible amount of time and >> resources, >>>> it's much, much more difficult. We struggle along as best we can and >> make >>>> changes as we can, but for me the last two years have been very >> difficult >>>> due to family issues, a major move and other obligations. Oh, yes, and > a >>>> grandson who is no longer readily available... Given the pandemic and >> the >>>> fact that we all have family, often elderly or otherwise needing >>>> assistance, things don't happen as quickly or efficiently as they >> should. >>>>> >>>>> Right now I'm faced with at least updating some website information > and >>>> finding the time, let alone determining the best way to do it, can be >>>> roadblocks in themselves. >>>>> >>>>> So, these upgrades will get done, but for specialist nurseries, these >>>> take a lower priority than making sure we have unusual and/or rare >> plants >>>> available for the plant lovers who support us. Personally, I'll put up >> with >>>> clunky websites to get what I want, knowing I can't get a plant > anywhere >>>> else nearly as easily. >>>>> >>>>> Robin Hansen >>>>> Hansen Nursery >>>>> In the southern wilds of Coos County, Oregon >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> pbs mailing list >>>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117194252%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=808HihSf%2FiHmmm4iEO61s > iw0A%2B1dYMTJXwmomP0EaLc%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pbs mailing list >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117194252%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=808HihSf%2FiHmmm4iEO61s > iw0A%2B1dYMTJXwmomP0EaLc%3D&reserved=0 >>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117194252%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=808HihSf%2FiHmmm4iEO61s > iw0A%2B1dYMTJXwmomP0EaLc%3D&reserved=0 >>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117194252%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=808HihSf%2FiHmmm4iEO61s > iw0A%2B1dYMTJXwmomP0EaLc%3D&reserved=0 >>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117194252%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=808HihSf%2FiHmmm4iEO61s > iw0A%2B1dYMTJXwmomP0EaLc%3D&reserved=0 >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:57:06 -0500 > From: "Jose" <arlen.jose@verizon.net> > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Nothoscordum dialystemon > Message-ID: <000001d70588$9be1da00$d3a58e00$@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Absolutely beautiful!!! I wish I could get mine to bloom. What is your > secret? > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of > Kenneth Preteroti via pbs > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 12:21 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: Kenneth Preteroti <k.preteroti@verizon.net> > Subject: [pbs] Nothoscordum dialystemon > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image0.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 272377 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > icbulbsociety.net%2Fpipermail%2Fpbs%2Fattachments%2F20210217%2F5a32&data > =04%7C01%7C%7Cc5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaa > aaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637492464117194252%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM > DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=rK88vMWih > mKQ0Fl8DsbFUFtVoEt47hvrJYP1qVKHkMg%3D&reserved=0 > 7afe/attachment.jpeg> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image1.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 198388 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > icbulbsociety.net%2Fpipermail%2Fpbs%2Fattachments%2F20210217%2F5a32&data > =04%7C01%7C%7Cc5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaa > aaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637492464117194252%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM > DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=rK88vMWih > mKQ0Fl8DsbFUFtVoEt47hvrJYP1qVKHkMg%3D&reserved=0 > 7afe/attachment-0001.jpeg> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image2.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 238183 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > icbulbsociety.net%2Fpipermail%2Fpbs%2Fattachments%2F20210217%2F5a32&data > =04%7C01%7C%7Cc5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaa > aaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637492464117194252%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM > DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=rK88vMWih > mKQ0Fl8DsbFUFtVoEt47hvrJYP1qVKHkMg%3D&reserved=0 > 7afe/attachment-0002.jpeg> > -------------- next part -------------- > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image3.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 205975 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > icbulbsociety.net%2Fpipermail%2Fpbs%2Fattachments%2F20210217%2F5a32&data > =04%7C01%7C%7Cc5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaa > aaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637492464117194252%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM > DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=rK88vMWih > mKQ0Fl8DsbFUFtVoEt47hvrJYP1qVKHkMg%3D&reserved=0 > 7afe/attachment-0003.jpeg> > -------------- next part -------------- > > A pretty and pleasantly sweet smelling flower for a dreary winter day. > > > Ken P > Old Bridge, NJ > Zone 6 b > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117194252%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=808HihSf%2FiHmmm4iEO61s > iw0A%2B1dYMTJXwmomP0EaLc%3D&reserved=0 > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 19:01:13 -0500 > From: "Jose" <arlen.jose@verizon.net> > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs > Message-ID: <000101d70589$2d2e81c0$878b8540$@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I couldn't agree more and I most certainly will do my part even though I > have run out of space ages ago :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of > Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 5:47 PM > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Cc: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs > > > > i think we can show our thanks to Diane and Robin by patronizing their > nurseries. > > Even if it's only a bulb or two. > > > > I heard a quote once about small specialist nurseries. > > How do you make some money with a specialist nursery? > > "Start with a lot of money" > > > > ArnoldSnow coming in NJ > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vlad Hempel via pbs < <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > To: Pacific Bulb Society < <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Cc: Vlad Hempel < <mailto:vlad.hempel@gmail.com> vlad.hempel@gmail.com> > > Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2021 3:57 pm > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs > > > > If I may add my two cents: > > > > Diana, I find your website good enough for what it is. > > > > Being a bulb enthusiast myself and not from US, I took time to read through > the conditions (especially the international orders page). > > > > I think your request about name and address is essential. > > > > Please continue to offers these gems. There are hardly any place that offer > so many generas and species in one place. > > > > Greetings from Berlin, > > Vlad > > > > > > > > > > On Wed 17. Feb 2021 at 21:43 Diana Chapman via pbs < > <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > wrote: > > > >> Thank you, Robin. It has actually taken me the best part of three > >> weeks just to update the availability on the web site, and I still > >> have the greenhouses to take care of and orders to fill. As for > >> hiring someone to do it, I couldn't possibly afford it, and anyway, I > >> tried some time back to have someone make a cd of bulbs that I would > >> provide to customers and it was a total nightmare, she couldn't > >> understand the names, couldn't spell them, even with me going over > >> them carefully, and I finally abandoned it. So, if my web site is > >> clunky and 'not modern', that's the way it is. I have rarely had any > complaints about it. > >> > >> Diana > >> Telos > >>> A suggestion that revamping our websites that would avoid questions > >>> and > >> other issues is great. But when you're a single proprietor with no > >> paid help and when revamping takes an incredible amount of time and > >> resources, it's much, much more difficult. We struggle along as best > >> we can and make changes as we can, but for me the last two years have > >> been very difficult due to family issues, a major move and other > >> obligations. Oh, yes, and a grandson who is no longer readily > >> available... Given the pandemic and the fact that we all have family, > >> often elderly or otherwise needing assistance, things don't happen as > quickly or efficiently as they should. > >>> > >>> Right now I'm faced with at least updating some website information > >>> and > >> finding the time, let alone determining the best way to do it, can be > >> roadblocks in themselves. > >>> > >>> So, these upgrades will get done, but for specialist nurseries, > >>> these > >> take a lower priority than making sure we have unusual and/or rare > >> plants available for the plant lovers who support us. Personally, I'll > >> put up with clunky websites to get what I want, knowing I can't get a > >> plant anywhere else nearly as easily. > >>> > >>> Robin Hansen > >>> Hansen Nursery > >>> In the southern wilds of Coos County, Oregon > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> pbs mailing list > >>> <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >>> > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > icbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7 > Cc5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0 > %7C637492464117194252%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2 > luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=808HihSf%2FiHmmm4iEO61 > siw0A%2B1dYMTJXwmomP0EaLc%3D&reserved=0> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117204251%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3NG7M5IZhXAdhZaAsT48Ln6 > BIXPRTvJyG%2F6WkdiBXf0%3D&reserved=0 > >>> Unsubscribe: < <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >> > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > icbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7 > Cc5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0 > %7C637492464117204251%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2 > luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3NG7M5IZhXAdhZaAsT48Ln > 6BIXPRTvJyG%2F6WkdiBXf0%3D&reserved=0> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117204251%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3NG7M5IZhXAdhZaAsT48Ln6 > BIXPRTvJyG%2F6WkdiBXf0%3D&reserved=0 > >> Unsubscribe: < <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > icbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7 > Cc5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0 > %7C637492464117204251%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2 > luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3NG7M5IZhXAdhZaAsT48Ln > 6BIXPRTvJyG%2F6WkdiBXf0%3D&reserved=0> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117204251%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3NG7M5IZhXAdhZaAsT48Ln6 > BIXPRTvJyG%2F6WkdiBXf0%3D&reserved=0 > > Unsubscribe: < <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > icbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7 > Cc5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0 > %7C637492464117204251%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2 > luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3NG7M5IZhXAdhZaAsT48Ln > 6BIXPRTvJyG%2F6WkdiBXf0%3D&reserved=0> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117204251%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3NG7M5IZhXAdhZaAsT48Ln6 > BIXPRTvJyG%2F6WkdiBXf0%3D&reserved=0 > > Unsubscribe: < <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 16:11:56 -0800 > From: Diana Chapman <rarebulbs@suddenlink.net> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs > Message-ID: <426f9879-8bee-f2dd-03fb-d1598a8972d3@suddenlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I thank you all for the kind and positive comments.? I can't tell you > how much that means to me. > > I don't mean to complain about customers asking questions, just silly > ones like 'how much is this bulb?'.? I try to answer all questions, and > give advice where necessary.? In these modern times, it is rare to be > able to communicate with a real person, only with the small specialty > nurseries will you get personalized care.?? That makes it special for me > too, I feel I know some of my customers.? People send me pictures of > their bulbs, or of their greenhouses or gardens, and that is really > wonderful, I feel I have friends all over the world. > > Again, many thanks for your supportive comments. > > Diana > Telos >> For great, unusual plants I?ll happily deal with a non-professionally > designed website. I?m hot after the plants not the graphic design. So as > long as I can figure out how to pick the plant and pay for it I?m good. >> >> Jan >> >>> On Feb 17, 2021, at 2:47 PM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >>> >>> i think we can show our thanks to Diane and Robin by patronizing their > nurseries. >>> Even if it's only a bulb or two. >>> >>> I heard a quote once about small specialist nurseries. >>> How do you make some money with a specialist nursery? >>> "Start with a lot of money" >>> >>> ArnoldSnow coming in NJ >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Vlad Hempel via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> Cc: Vlad Hempel <vlad.hempel@gmail.com> >>> Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2021 3:57 pm >>> Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs >>> >>> If I may add my two cents: >>> >>> Diana, I find your website good enough for what it is. >>> >>> Being a bulb enthusiast myself and not from US, I took time to read > through >>> the conditions (especially the international orders page). >>> >>> I think your request about name and address is essential. >>> >>> Please continue to offers these gems. There are hardly any place that > offer >>> so many generas and species in one place. >>> >>> Greetings from Berlin, >>> Vlad >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed 17. Feb 2021 at 21:43 Diana Chapman via pbs < >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you, Robin. It has actually taken me the best part of three weeks >>>> just to update the availability on the web site, and I still have the >>>> greenhouses to take care of and orders to fill. As for hiring someone >>>> to do it, I couldn't possibly afford it, and anyway, I tried some time >>>> back to have someone make a cd of bulbs that I would provide to >>>> customers and it was a total nightmare, she couldn't understand the >>>> names, couldn't spell them, even with me going over them carefully, and >>>> I finally abandoned it. So, if my web site is clunky and 'not modern', >>>> that's the way it is. I have rarely had any complaints about it. >>>> >>>> Diana >>>> Telos >>>>> A suggestion that revamping our websites that would avoid questions and >>>> other issues is great. But when you're a single proprietor with no paid >>>> help and when revamping takes an incredible amount of time and > resources, >>>> it's much, much more difficult. We struggle along as best we can and > make >>>> changes as we can, but for me the last two years have been very > difficult >>>> due to family issues, a major move and other obligations. Oh, yes, and a >>>> grandson who is no longer readily available... Given the pandemic and > the >>>> fact that we all have family, often elderly or otherwise needing >>>> assistance, things don't happen as quickly or efficiently as they > should. >>>>> Right now I'm faced with at least updating some website information and >>>> finding the time, let alone determining the best way to do it, can be >>>> roadblocks in themselves. >>>>> So, these upgrades will get done, but for specialist nurseries, these >>>> take a lower priority than making sure we have unusual and/or rare > plants >>>> available for the plant lovers who support us. Personally, I'll put up > with >>>> clunky websites to get what I want, knowing I can't get a plant anywhere >>>> else nearly as easily. >>>>> Robin Hansen >>>>> Hansen Nursery >>>>> In the southern wilds of Coos County, Oregon >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> pbs mailing list >>>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117204251%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3NG7M5IZhXAdhZaAsT48Ln6 > BIXPRTvJyG%2F6WkdiBXf0%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pbs mailing list >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117204251%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3NG7M5IZhXAdhZaAsT48Ln6 > BIXPRTvJyG%2F6WkdiBXf0%3D&reserved=0 >>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117204251%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3NG7M5IZhXAdhZaAsT48Ln6 > BIXPRTvJyG%2F6WkdiBXf0%3D&reserved=0 >>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117204251%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3NG7M5IZhXAdhZaAsT48Ln6 > BIXPRTvJyG%2F6WkdiBXf0%3D&reserved=0 >>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117204251%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3NG7M5IZhXAdhZaAsT48Ln6 > BIXPRTvJyG%2F6WkdiBXf0%3D&reserved=0 >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 16:26:00 -0800 > From: M Gastil-Buhl <gastil.buhl@gmail.com> > To: pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs > Message-ID: > <CALGksbA8mdHUhc0nLrEvJOpj=NUtF08OyHNmUFo2G7j3yoX5OA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I agree the Telos website works well enough. I would much prefer a simple > website and excellent bulbs like Telos offers than some fancy site like > Zappos and ordinary or inferior bulbs. And I appreciate that it is Diana > who corresponds. I know how much effort goes into growing these bulbs from > seed so her nursery is a treasure. > > I ordered several species I had not grown before last year and am having a > lot of fun watching them. This week my Tropaeolum azureum began blooming. > From a tuber the size of a garbanzo bean and a thin thread of a shoot, an > amazing canopy loaded with flower buds has scrambled all over the > pollinator exclusion net I built around it. In the attached photo I placed > a T. hookerianum bloom beside the T. azureum to show how much more blue the > latter has. > > I usually grow from seed but I have not gotten this species seed to > germinate. I have several tiny pots this year, some still in the fridge, > and some taken out after various lengths of cooling. None have emerged yet. > Well this year I will have lots of seed, if I get out there with my paint > brush. I am waiting for a day less windy. The blooms which have escaped the > netting could be cross pollenated by T. hookerianum since it is a cloud of > purple only 10 m away and loaded with bees. The bees have not yet found the > T. azureum. > > As Jim mentioned, it has been unusually dry and windy. Some bulb leaves > already have tips turning brown even though I have been carrying buckets of > saved rain water for what seems like hours each day. My barrels are below > half capacity now so it better rain again before summer. > > Gastil > Santa Barbara, California > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Tropaeolum_azureum_mgb1.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 332145 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > icbulbsociety.net%2Fpipermail%2Fpbs%2Fattachments%2F20210217%2F63bf156f%2Fat > tachment.jpg&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e > 7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637492464117214242%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZs > b3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C100 > 0&sdata=KCBqcxLHPrwjnMtRmO6THInUlrPwGZegTOZUmyCrQJc%3D&reserved=0> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:18:22 -0800 > From: "R Hansen" <bulbnut@hansennursery.com> > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs > Message-ID: <005a01d7059c$551007f0$ff3017d0$@hansennursery.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > As Diana at Telos comments, the customers are the reason we enjoy what we do > so much. The photos they send, the comments they make, even occasionally the > plants they send us, are what make the nursery business so worthwhile and > enjoyable. It's particularly rewarding to deal with the same customers year > after year. > > Sure, there are a small minority with smartphone trigger finger, a modern > disease I think we're stuck with, but we learn as much from our customers as > they learn from us. I've worked for other nurseries, fortunately smaller > nurseries where we get to know our customers and can better meet their needs > and enjoyed those jobs a lot. Even a current wholesale customer is a joy to > work with as they make a strenuous effort to know their suppliers. > > Best regards, > > Robin @ Hansen Nursery > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 21:47:53 -0500 > From: John Willis <macjohn@mac.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs > Message-ID: <78EB81D4-F48A-4B9B-ADA6-B2C247CAA1D7@mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Well all the discussion prompted me to make a long overdue order. Goes out > in the mail tomorrow. ? jw > >>> On Feb 17, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Diana Chapman via pbs >> <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> I thank you all for the kind and positive comments. I can't tell you how > much that means to me. >> >> I don't mean to complain about customers asking questions, just silly ones > like 'how much is this bulb?'. I try to answer all questions, and give > advice where necessary. In these modern times, it is rare to be able to > communicate with a real person, only with the small specialty nurseries will > you get personalized care. That makes it special for me too, I feel I know > some of my customers. People send me pictures of their bulbs, or of their > greenhouses or gardens, and that is really wonderful, I feel I have friends > all over the world. >> >> Again, many thanks for your supportive comments. >> >> Diana >> Telos >>> For great, unusual plants I?ll happily deal with a non-professionally > designed website. I?m hot after the plants not the graphic design. So as > long as I can figure out how to pick the plant and pay for it I?m good. >>> >>> Jan >>> >>>> On Feb 17, 2021, at 2:47 PM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> i think we can show our thanks to Diane and Robin by patronizing their > nurseries. >>>> Even if it's only a bulb or two. >>>> >>>> I heard a quote once about small specialist nurseries. >>>> How do you make some money with a specialist nursery? >>>> "Start with a lot of money" >>>> >>>> ArnoldSnow coming in NJ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Vlad Hempel via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> Cc: Vlad Hempel <vlad.hempel@gmail.com> >>>> Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2021 3:57 pm >>>> Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs >>>> >>>> If I may add my two cents: >>>> >>>> Diana, I find your website good enough for what it is. >>>> >>>> Being a bulb enthusiast myself and not from US, I took time to read > through >>>> the conditions (especially the international orders page). >>>> >>>> I think your request about name and address is essential. >>>> >>>> Please continue to offers these gems. There are hardly any place that > offer >>>> so many generas and species in one place. >>>> >>>> Greetings from Berlin, >>>> Vlad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed 17. Feb 2021 at 21:43 Diana Chapman via pbs < >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you, Robin. It has actually taken me the best part of three > weeks >>>>> just to update the availability on the web site, and I still have the >>>>> greenhouses to take care of and orders to fill. As for hiring someone >>>>> to do it, I couldn't possibly afford it, and anyway, I tried some time >>>>> back to have someone make a cd of bulbs that I would provide to >>>>> customers and it was a total nightmare, she couldn't understand the >>>>> names, couldn't spell them, even with me going over them carefully, and >>>>> I finally abandoned it. So, if my web site is clunky and 'not modern', >>>>> that's the way it is. I have rarely had any complaints about it. >>>>> >>>>> Diana >>>>> Telos >>>>>> A suggestion that revamping our websites that would avoid questions > and >>>>> other issues is great. But when you're a single proprietor with no paid >>>>> help and when revamping takes an incredible amount of time and > resources, >>>>> it's much, much more difficult. We struggle along as best we can and > make >>>>> changes as we can, but for me the last two years have been very > difficult >>>>> due to family issues, a major move and other obligations. Oh, yes, and > a >>>>> grandson who is no longer readily available... Given the pandemic and > the >>>>> fact that we all have family, often elderly or otherwise needing >>>>> assistance, things don't happen as quickly or efficiently as they > should. >>>>>> Right now I'm faced with at least updating some website information > and >>>>> finding the time, let alone determining the best way to do it, can be >>>>> roadblocks in themselves. >>>>>> So, these upgrades will get done, but for specialist nurseries, these >>>>> take a lower priority than making sure we have unusual and/or rare > plants >>>>> available for the plant lovers who support us. Personally, I'll put up > with >>>>> clunky websites to get what I want, knowing I can't get a plant > anywhere >>>>> else nearly as easily. >>>>>> Robin Hansen >>>>>> Hansen Nursery >>>>>> In the southern wilds of Coos County, Oregon >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> pbs mailing list >>>>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117214242%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Y5gsuM1LVhOrLxotfRV5G23 > uuMUoH3GecCzE91%2B2CHE%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> pbs mailing list >>>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117214242%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Y5gsuM1LVhOrLxotfRV5G23 > uuMUoH3GecCzE91%2B2CHE%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pbs mailing list >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117214242%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Y5gsuM1LVhOrLxotfRV5G23 > uuMUoH3GecCzE91%2B2CHE%3D&reserved=0 >>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pbs mailing list >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117214242%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Y5gsuM1LVhOrLxotfRV5G23 > uuMUoH3GecCzE91%2B2CHE%3D&reserved=0 >>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117214242%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Y5gsuM1LVhOrLxotfRV5G23 > uuMUoH3GecCzE91%2B2CHE%3D&reserved=0 >>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117214242%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Y5gsuM1LVhOrLxotfRV5G23 > uuMUoH3GecCzE91%2B2CHE%3D&reserved=0 >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Gardens get wilder every day ? > MacGardens > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > ens.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7f > e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637492464117214242%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3 > d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000& > amp;sdata=%2BOJHrmmtPD7qgpESFVBku%2F%2FqqhvVUQ8xUQrkLq4ECEA%3D&reserved= > 0> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 21:52:43 -0500 > From: John Willis <willis@fred.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs > Message-ID: <47A61574-D0BA-4DA4-9831-F838A9198908@fred.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Well all the discussion prompted me to make a long overdue order. Goes out > in the mail tomorrow. ? jw > >> On Feb 17, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Diana Chapman via pbs > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>> > wrote: >> >> I thank you all for the kind and positive comments. I can't tell you how > much that means to me. >> >> I don't mean to complain about customers asking questions, just silly ones > like 'how much is this bulb?'. I try to answer all questions, and give > advice where necessary. In these modern times, it is rare to be able to > communicate with a real person, only with the small specialty nurseries will > you get personalized care. That makes it special for me too, I feel I know > some of my customers. People send me pictures of their bulbs, or of their > greenhouses or gardens, and that is really wonderful, I feel I have friends > all over the world. >> >> Again, many thanks for your supportive comments. >> >> Diana >> Telos >>> For great, unusual plants I?ll happily deal with a non-professionally > designed website. I?m hot after the plants not the graphic design. So as > long as I can figure out how to pick the plant and pay for it I?m good. >>> >>> Jan >>> >>>> On Feb 17, 2021, at 2:47 PM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> i think we can show our thanks to Diane and Robin by patronizing their > nurseries. >>>> Even if it's only a bulb or two. >>>> >>>> I heard a quote once about small specialist nurseries. >>>> How do you make some money with a specialist nursery? >>>> "Start with a lot of money" >>>> >>>> ArnoldSnow coming in NJ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Vlad Hempel via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>> >>>> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>> >>>> Cc: Vlad Hempel <vlad.hempel@gmail.com <mailto:vlad.hempel@gmail.com>> >>>> Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2021 3:57 pm >>>> Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs >>>> >>>> If I may add my two cents: >>>> >>>> Diana, I find your website good enough for what it is. >>>> >>>> Being a bulb enthusiast myself and not from US, I took time to read > through >>>> the conditions (especially the international orders page). >>>> >>>> I think your request about name and address is essential. >>>> >>>> Please continue to offers these gems. There are hardly any place that > offer >>>> so many generas and species in one place. >>>> >>>> Greetings from Berlin, >>>> Vlad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed 17. Feb 2021 at 21:43 Diana Chapman via pbs < >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you, Robin. It has actually taken me the best part of three > weeks >>>>> just to update the availability on the web site, and I still have the >>>>> greenhouses to take care of and orders to fill. As for hiring someone >>>>> to do it, I couldn't possibly afford it, and anyway, I tried some time >>>>> back to have someone make a cd of bulbs that I would provide to >>>>> customers and it was a total nightmare, she couldn't understand the >>>>> names, couldn't spell them, even with me going over them carefully, and >>>>> I finally abandoned it. So, if my web site is clunky and 'not modern', >>>>> that's the way it is. I have rarely had any complaints about it. >>>>> >>>>> Diana >>>>> Telos >>>>>> A suggestion that revamping our websites that would avoid questions > and >>>>> other issues is great. But when you're a single proprietor with no paid >>>>> help and when revamping takes an incredible amount of time and > resources, >>>>> it's much, much more difficult. We struggle along as best we can and > make >>>>> changes as we can, but for me the last two years have been very > difficult >>>>> due to family issues, a major move and other obligations. Oh, yes, and > a >>>>> grandson who is no longer readily available... Given the pandemic and > the >>>>> fact that we all have family, often elderly or otherwise needing >>>>> assistance, things don't happen as quickly or efficiently as they > should. >>>>>> Right now I'm faced with at least updating some website information > and >>>>> finding the time, let alone determining the best way to do it, can be >>>>> roadblocks in themselves. >>>>>> So, these upgrades will get done, but for specialist nurseries, these >>>>> take a lower priority than making sure we have unusual and/or rare > plants >>>>> available for the plant lovers who support us. Personally, I'll put up > with >>>>> clunky websites to get what I want, knowing I can't get a plant > anywhere >>>>> else nearly as easily. >>>>>> Robin Hansen >>>>>> Hansen Nursery >>>>>> In the southern wilds of Coos County, Oregon >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> pbs mailing list >>>>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117214242%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Y5gsuM1LVhOrLxotfRV5G23 > uuMUoH3GecCzE91%2B2CHE%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> pbs mailing list >>>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117214242%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Y5gsuM1LVhOrLxotfRV5G23 > uuMUoH3GecCzE91%2B2CHE%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pbs mailing list >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117224239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=BHRH7mE1xreOaa8uzp7ysgC > aOHa90OjXBu89J7C1Ts8%3D&reserved=0 >>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pbs mailing list >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117224239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=BHRH7mE1xreOaa8uzp7ysgC > aOHa90OjXBu89J7C1Ts8%3D&reserved=0 >>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117224239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=BHRH7mE1xreOaa8uzp7ysgC > aOHa90OjXBu89J7C1Ts8%3D&reserved=0 >>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117224239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=BHRH7mE1xreOaa8uzp7ysgC > aOHa90OjXBu89J7C1Ts8%3D&reserved=0 >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Gardens get wilder every day ? > MacGardens > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > ens.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7f > e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637492464117224239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3 > d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000& > amp;sdata=V6p5NKg45ENmGggjXM%2F840Bhs%2Bo3zc1lF8A5eWBkKE8%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > > Gardens get wilder every day ? > MacGardens > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > ens.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7f > e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637492464117224239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3 > d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000& > amp;sdata=V6p5NKg45ENmGggjXM%2F840Bhs%2Bo3zc1lF8A5eWBkKE8%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 19:06:58 -0800 > From: Robert Parks <trolleypup@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs > Message-ID: > <CAGp9_p=DBmmeKvasfGzGqjqQk_1f1tV-wFHmU1NQbLBn6RKBcA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > For years I produced my family's nursery catalog (remember paper catalogs), > and later also converted the catalog to html each year (long before online > shops). That was a giant yearly project...and I was 3000 miles away from > actual operations. > > Sitting here, I glance over at my garden spreadsheet and shudder at the > thought of converting it to a presentable and useful online catalog...and > doing it in a way that it is maintainable and easily updated. Knowing that > whatever solution I choose, there will be many dozens of hours of work > before something workable results...time where I would be away from work, > the garden, and any other personal activities I might indulge in, time that > I wouldn't get back, nor compensated for. > > It is really easy to understand the choice to keep legacy systems going > when the commitment to change is so expensive (time/labor/money)...and the > replacement never works perfectly for you, since it is alway a mass market > system with limited or expensive customization. We have three interlocking > systems at work, one an enormous spreadsheet that is manually updated, but > produces the reports needed, and easily workable, another commercial system > that does its job pretty well, mostly because of an inhouse software > wizard, and a standardized system that replaces a completely obsolete > system that had once been well customized...it does nothing well, is > ferociously difficult to use for everyone, but is what we are stuck with > since a previous administration wanted to get the resume entry for > "updating this obsolete system". No, they don't talk to each other, except > for a few limited digital reports that are sent occasionally. I will note > that you can get an answer out of the spreadsheet faster than you can get > either of the other systems started up. > > Anyway. Kudos to the small independent nurseries that supply my plant > habits, so long as the websites have the basic information, I can do my due > diligence. If they add deeper descriptions and information, provide images, > and have a workable navigation interface, wow, that is a major plus! > > Now, if you will excuse me, I _need_ to go pore over the Telos offerings. > I'm sure I'll find a "few" items I can't live without! > > Robert > in sunny pleasant San Francisco where this week's biggest flower show is > fields of Oxalis pes-caprae in full glorious invasiveness. > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 4:12 PM Diana Chapman via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > >> I thank you all for the kind and positive comments. I can't tell you >> how much that means to me. >> >> I don't mean to complain about customers asking questions, just silly >> ones like 'how much is this bulb?'. I try to answer all questions, and >> give advice where necessary. In these modern times, it is rare to be >> able to communicate with a real person, only with the small specialty >> nurseries will you get personalized care. That makes it special for me >> too, I feel I know some of my customers. People send me pictures of >> their bulbs, or of their greenhouses or gardens, and that is really >> wonderful, I feel I have friends all over the world. >> >> Again, many thanks for your supportive comments. >> >> Diana >> Telos >>> For great, unusual plants I?ll happily deal with a non-professionally >> designed website. I?m hot after the plants not the graphic design. So as >> long as I can figure out how to pick the plant and pay for it I?m good. >>> >>> Jan >>> >>>> On Feb 17, 2021, at 2:47 PM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs < >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> i think we can show our thanks to Diane and Robin by patronizing their >> nurseries. >>>> Even if it's only a bulb or two. >>>> >>>> I heard a quote once about small specialist nurseries. >>>> How do you make some money with a specialist nursery? >>>> "Start with a lot of money" >>>> >>>> ArnoldSnow coming in NJ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Vlad Hempel via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> Cc: Vlad Hempel <vlad.hempel@gmail.com> >>>> Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2021 3:57 pm >>>> Subject: Re: [pbs] Telos Rare Bulbs >>>> >>>> If I may add my two cents: >>>> >>>> Diana, I find your website good enough for what it is. >>>> >>>> Being a bulb enthusiast myself and not from US, I took time to read >> through >>>> the conditions (especially the international orders page). >>>> >>>> I think your request about name and address is essential. >>>> >>>> Please continue to offers these gems. There are hardly any place that >> offer >>>> so many generas and species in one place. >>>> >>>> Greetings from Berlin, >>>> Vlad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed 17. Feb 2021 at 21:43 Diana Chapman via pbs < >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you, Robin. It has actually taken me the best part of three >> weeks >>>>> just to update the availability on the web site, and I still have the >>>>> greenhouses to take care of and orders to fill. As for hiring someone >>>>> to do it, I couldn't possibly afford it, and anyway, I tried some time >>>>> back to have someone make a cd of bulbs that I would provide to >>>>> customers and it was a total nightmare, she couldn't understand the >>>>> names, couldn't spell them, even with me going over them carefully, > and >>>>> I finally abandoned it. So, if my web site is clunky and 'not > modern', >>>>> that's the way it is. I have rarely had any complaints about it. >>>>> >>>>> Diana >>>>> Telos >>>>>> A suggestion that revamping our websites that would avoid questions >> and >>>>> other issues is great. But when you're a single proprietor with no > paid >>>>> help and when revamping takes an incredible amount of time and >> resources, >>>>> it's much, much more difficult. We struggle along as best we can and >> make >>>>> changes as we can, but for me the last two years have been very >> difficult >>>>> due to family issues, a major move and other obligations. Oh, yes, and >> a >>>>> grandson who is no longer readily available... Given the pandemic and >> the >>>>> fact that we all have family, often elderly or otherwise needing >>>>> assistance, things don't happen as quickly or efficiently as they >> should. >>>>>> Right now I'm faced with at least updating some website information >> and >>>>> finding the time, let alone determining the best way to do it, can be >>>>> roadblocks in themselves. >>>>>> So, these upgrades will get done, but for specialist nurseries, these >>>>> take a lower priority than making sure we have unusual and/or rare >> plants >>>>> available for the plant lovers who support us. Personally, I'll put up >> with >>>>> clunky websites to get what I want, knowing I can't get a plant >> anywhere >>>>> else nearly as easily. >>>>>> Robin Hansen >>>>>> Hansen Nursery >>>>>> In the southern wilds of Coos County, Oregon >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> pbs mailing list >>>>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117224239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=BHRH7mE1xreOaa8uzp7ysgC > aOHa90OjXBu89J7C1Ts8%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> pbs mailing list >>>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117224239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=BHRH7mE1xreOaa8uzp7ysgC > aOHa90OjXBu89J7C1Ts8%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pbs mailing list >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117224239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=BHRH7mE1xreOaa8uzp7ysgC > aOHa90OjXBu89J7C1Ts8%3D&reserved=0 >>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pbs mailing list >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117224239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=BHRH7mE1xreOaa8uzp7ysgC > aOHa90OjXBu89J7C1Ts8%3D&reserved=0 >>>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117224239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=BHRH7mE1xreOaa8uzp7ysgC > aOHa90OjXBu89J7C1Ts8%3D&reserved=0 >>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117224239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=BHRH7mE1xreOaa8uzp7ysgC > aOHa90OjXBu89J7C1Ts8%3D&reserved=0 >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 21:12:15 -0800 > From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] Iris histrioides/A. belladonna > Message-ID: <626f08f0-4413-614b-63f5-84f4a4364bd6@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Iris histroides does better here in places where it gets little or no > summer water. It does well in full sun. > > Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA > >> On 2/17/2021 2:07 PM, edward mccaleb via pbs wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Wondering if anyone can tell me what I?m doing wrong withIris > histrioides.? I live not too farfrom the confluence of the Cape Fear R. and > the Atlantic, a USDA 8B zone.?? We are protected from weather > extremes(except hurricanes) by the gulf stream, which is not too far > offshore. >> >> For several years I?ve tried growing I. histrioides withoutsuccess.? > Planted them in areas receivingfull sun (10 hrs) w/ well drained soils (sand > mixed with a little mulch/manure)in multiple locations.? This year Ipotted > them in a mixture of #57 gravel and a little potting mix. I thought thisan > early blooming species, but so far not even a nudge of green above grade.? > Miz Lawrence identifies this an "easy" species. >> >> Any suggestions? >> Also, has anyone ever had success with Amaryllis belladonna inthe area?? I > purchased a few bulbs years ago, theygerminated easily enough and are now > fully leafed out.? The foliage typically dies back as the hotweather arrives > and they remain dormant the autumn (November here).? Going on five years > now, it has neverflowered.? Should I have any hope that itever will? >> Thanks!Edward >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117234238%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=GM7HjJ%2FTsnN8NTzNOPKUI > dUnhrsJWEOOzHEWIoWLrtI%3D&reserved=0 >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > cbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7C > c5e04f1c2a79438b9afe08d8d404bd01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0% > 7C637492464117234238%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l > uMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=GM7HjJ%2FTsnN8NTzNOPKUI > dUnhrsJWEOOzHEWIoWLrtI%3D&reserved=0 > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 48, Issue 18 > *********************************** > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>