The new book is available through the AGS (Alpine Garden Society). https://alpinegardensociety.net/shop/… Erika Schroedersecker Toronto, ON. Beautiful late Summer day with Fall approaching. Sent from my iPad > On Sep 16, 2020, at 8:00 AM, pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net wrote: > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Moraea and Gladiolus hybrids (michaelcmace@gmail.com) > 2. Re: Colchicums recently donated by Arnold Trachtenberg > (vkmyrick@pacbell.net) > 3. Re: Colchicums recently donated by Arnold Trachtenberg > (Arnold Trachtenberg) > 4. Re: Colchicums recently donated by Arnold Trachtenberg > (Jane McGary) > 5. New Colchicum book (Rimmer de Vries) > 6. New Colchicum book (Rimmer de Vries) > 7. New Colchicum book (Rimmer de Vries) > 8. Re: New Colchicum book (Kathy Purdy) > 9. Re: New Colchicum book (R Hansen) > 10. Re: New Colchicum book (Jane McGary) > 11. Re: New Colchicum book (Lee Poulsen) > 12. Re: gladiolus hybrids (Francis James Hartnell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:25:30 -0700 > From: <michaelcmace@gmail.com> > To: <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Moraea and Gladiolus hybrids > Message-ID: <157b01d68b7c$d495c900$7dc15b00$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Brian wrote: > >> Please clarify "winter growing" Gladiolus. > > Sorry for the confusion. By winter growing I mean adapted to a mediterranean > climate: winter rainfall and summer drought. > > By summer growing I mean the opposite: Summer rainfall and winter drought. > Many bulbs from Mexico and eastern South Africa expect that weather pattern. > We don't have a convenient name like "mediterranean" for that climate, so I > tend to say summer and winter growing. > > Mike > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:58:23 -0700 > From: vkmyrick@pacbell.net > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Colchicums recently donated by Arnold Trachtenberg > Message-ID: <FD08CC7F-B366-415A-89E2-856620A9E73D@pacbell.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > So happy to see these photos as I am one of the recipients of your generosity. I was wondering > whether the smaller bulb of the group I received is a young bulb or if it indicated a particular specie? > > Val > Sonora, CA - away from the fires but not the smoke > >> On Sep 12, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> Here's some shots of the Colchicums I recently donated to the BX. >> ArnoldNE New Jersey >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: Colchicum.2020.JPG >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 176869 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: Colchicum.2020.2.JPG >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 158460 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: Colchicum byzantium Alba.2020.JPG >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 162115 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 17:05:24 +0000 (UTC) > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net> > To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net" > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Colchicums recently donated by Arnold Trachtenberg > Message-ID: <44741399.2617079.1600189524781@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > hi Val: > It's probably a younger bulb.? Most of what I have are the larger hardier species and hybrids of Colchicums. > There is much confusion about the naming of these. > I just read there is a new book out on Colchicums. > Unfortunately if I were to buy another bulb book I'd have to move into the garage. (:-} > > Arnold > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Valerie Myrick via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: vkmyrick@pacbell.net > Sent: Tue, Sep 15, 2020 12:58 pm > Subject: Re: [pbs] Colchicums recently donated by Arnold Trachtenberg > > So happy to see these photos as I am one of the recipients of your generosity.? I was wondering > whether the smaller bulb of the group I received is a young bulb or if it indicated a particular specie? > > Val > Sonora, CA - away from the fires but not the smoke > >> On Sep 12, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> Here's some shots of the Colchicums I recently donated to the BX. >> ArnoldNE New Jersey >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: Colchicum.2020.JPG >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 176869 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: Colchicum.2020.2.JPG >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 158460 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: Colchicum byzantium Alba.2020.JPG >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 162115 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 13:17:46 -0700 > From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] Colchicums recently donated by Arnold Trachtenberg > Message-ID: <16da5c06-7631-3c34-cd32-88462a5ad7af@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Arnold mentioned, "I just read there is a new book out on Colchicums." > > Is this the long-awaited monograph by Persson? Please say it's so. > > Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon; a little better atmosphere today, I can > see the house across the street. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 15:14:07 -0500 > From: Rimmer de Vries <rdevries@comcast.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] New Colchicum book > Message-ID: <068911BC-9FB1-4059-917E-07F0D9CD0B7E@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > https://srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php/… > > Rimmer > >> Jane McGary wrote: >> >> ? >> Is this the long-awaited monograph by Persson? Please say it's so. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 15:15:18 -0500 > From: Rimmer de Vries <rdevries@comcast.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] New Colchicum book > Message-ID: <9F844884-BCFC-4F37-A669-3AE6D18227AB@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Colchicum: The Complete Guide, by Christopher Grey-Wilson, Rod Leeds and Robert Rolfe. > > ?https://srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php/… > > Rimmer > >> Jane McGary wrote: >> ? >> Is this the long-awaited monograph by Persson? Please say it's so. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 15:15:40 -0500 > From: Rimmer de Vries <rdevries@comcast.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] New Colchicum book > Message-ID: <8CE68557-F848-4779-98D7-7F632F27BA07@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > ? > Colchicum: The Complete Guide, by Christopher Grey-Wilson, Rod Leeds and Robert Rolfe. > > ?https://srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php/… > > Rimmer > >> Jane McGary wrote: >> ? >> Is this the long-awaited monograph by Persson? Please say it's so. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 16:58:20 -0400 > From: Kathy Purdy <kopurdy@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] New Colchicum book > Message-ID: > <CAK9Z5GLS0yHvwv834U-g59YUzT=pE-SQcLS1r5dWr1q2Z3scfg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I purchased the book directly from the RHS website and I'm very happy with > it. Not written by Persson but she is referenced frequently. It's over 500 > pages and priced accordingly. I noticed many commenters at Rimmer's link > said the book was going on their Christmas wishlist, but I couldn't wait. > The authors were part of a RHS trial to sort out colchicums--including the > cultivars!--and they have renamed a few and named some that had no name. > The biggest flaw (for an American living in a cold climate) is they have no > useful concept of plant hardiness. All the garden cultivars, they assure > the reader, are hardy to -15C. That's 5F and my winters routinely get > colder than that. Yet I am successfully growing many of the cultivars > listed, so what they really mean is "at least that hardy." It's the most > expensive book I've every purchased but I have no regrets buying it, > although I still haven't gotten to the point where I can write in it. Just > too new and special.--Kathy > >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 4:15 PM Rimmer de Vries via pbs < >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> >> Colchicum: The Complete Guide, by Christopher Grey-Wilson, Rod Leeds and >> Robert Rolfe. >> >> ?https://srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php/… >> >> Rimmer >> >>> Jane McGary wrote: >>> ? >>> Is this the long-awaited monograph by Persson? Please say it's so. >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> > > > -- > Kathy Purdy > 2018 Winner of *two* Garden Writers Association > Silver Awards of Achievement for Blog Writing and Newsletter Article > http://www.coldclimategardening.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 15:25:04 -0700 > From: "R Hansen" <bulbnut@hansennursery.com> > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] New Colchicum book > Message-ID: <004c01d68baf$10ff6900$32fe3b00$@hansennursery.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have just tried purchasing the book on the RHS website and ran into a problem at the Payment button. I've emailed RHS about the problem but here's hoping they tell me how to resolve that as I've been waiting for a Colchicum book for a very long time! I have Ruksans' Crocus books and I continue to drool over them at every opportunity. I'm so glad someone is still publishing monographs like this, because it seems (I could be wrong.) that Timber Press is spending too much time on general gardening books which are of no interest to me at all. > > For anyone who has already purchased the book, are there any volunteers willing to write an in-depth review for the PBS Bulb Garden journal???? > > Robin Hansen > Editor, PBS Bulb Garden > > Smoky in Paradise in southwest Oregon, but the wind has changed so there is hope. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 16:37:39 -0700 > From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > To: R Hansen via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] New Colchicum book > Message-ID: <5e3a4d93-bc7c-5b5e-e133-b153b5996249@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I would be happy to write a review of this book for PBS, as I have grown > most of the commercial cultivars and perhaps 20 or 25 species from seed > over the years. I will try to buy it, but I don't have high hopes that > it will contain a useful key. It sounds more like a book for gardeners > than an actual monograph, and some of you will know the shortcomings of > other books in this series. I want something authoritative, at least for > the present view, so that I can verify the names of my colchicums; I > know some of them came as seed under the wrong names. I don't blame the > collectors for this, because one colchicum capsule looks much like > another, and some species are sympatric in Greece and Turkey. > > Regarding the Ruksans books, the photos are great, but there is no > reason to accept all the names. I still depend on Brian Mathew's "The > Crocus" for ID purposes, having laid in some copies of articles on > species identified after it was published. The spate of names recently > originating in Turkey is even more problematic. Mathew, sensibly in my > opinion, views Crocus as a genus that exists in continua as well as > clearly separable species. > > Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA > > >> On 9/15/2020 3:25 PM, R Hansen via pbs wrote: >> I have just tried purchasing the book on the RHS website and ran into a problem at the Payment button. I've emailed RHS about the problem but here's hoping they tell me how to resolve that as I've been waiting for a Colchicum book for a very long time! I have Ruksans' Crocus books and I continue to drool over them at every opportunity. I'm so glad someone is still publishing monographs like this, because it seems (I could be wrong.) that Timber Press is spending too much time on general gardening books which are of no interest to me at all. >> >> For anyone who has already purchased the book, are there any volunteers willing to write an in-depth review for the PBS Bulb Garden journal???? >> >> Robin Hansen >> Editor, PBS Bulb Garden >> >> Smoky in Paradise in southwest Oregon, but the wind has changed so there is hope. >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 16:38:59 -0700 > From: Lee Poulsen <wpoulsen@pacbell.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] New Colchicum book > Message-ID: <DE81CA92-0995-4B1C-B0C5-0E959AF8F9BF@pacbell.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > This line from Rimmer?s link sounds promising for Jane: "It covers the botany and classification of the genus, including its relationship to Androcymbium and Merendera. All 104 species are described in detail with a key to aid identification. More than 80 of the most widely grown cultivars are illustrated and described.? > > --Lee Poulsen > Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a > Latitude 34?N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m > >> On Sep 15, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Jane McGary via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> I would be happy to write a review of this book for PBS, as I have grown most of the commercial cultivars and perhaps 20 or 25 species from seed over the years. I will try to buy it, but I don't have high hopes that it will contain a useful key. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 07:57:48 +0100 > From: Francis James Hartnell <fjameshartnell@aol.com> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] gladiolus hybrids > Message-ID: <209DE691-333F-477C-A59A-8BB728565D54@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I breed a lot of summer flowering hybrids including primulinus. It is true that you can flower some prims from seed in the first year but the flowers tend to be immature with only a few buds. Second year sees spikes of 16-20 buds. The grandiflora hybrids mostly need two, rarely three years to flower from seed. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 15 Sep 2020, at 13:00, pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net wrote: >> >> Send pbs mailing list submissions to >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." >> >> >> List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Are donations still accepted? (Carolyn Dorsh) >> 2. Re: Are donations still accepted? (R Hansen) >> 3. Re: Moraea and Gladiolus hybrids report (michaelcmace@gmail.com) >> 4. Re: Moraea and Gladiolus hybrids report (Brian Whyer) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 11:31:35 -0700 >> From: Carolyn Dorsh <cdorsch1919@gmail.com> >> To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> Subject: [pbs] Are donations still accepted? >> Message-ID: <C3217D6C-35BB-4DAF-8E56-C95E2132128E@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Hi, >> I have some California native seeds and bulbs to donate to the PBX. Can I still send them in? There was a call for donations in June, but it isn?t clear to me if I should send anything now. >> >> Thank you. -Carolyn Dorsch >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 12:06:35 -0700 >> From: "R Hansen" <bulbnut@hansennursery.com> >> To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Are donations still accepted? >> Message-ID: <00c701d68aca$2b3e7a30$81bb6e90$@hansennursery.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Carolyn, >> >> Luminita Vollmer, our Exchange Director, will make an announcement when she's ready to accept more donations. Please do not send them until she does. >> >> Regards, >> >> Robin Hansen >> President, PBS >> >> Subject: [pbs] Are donations still accepted? >> >> Hi, >> I have some California native seeds and bulbs to donate to the PBX. Can I still send them in? There was a call for donations in June, but it isn?t clear to me if I should send anything now. >> >> Thank you. -Carolyn Dorsch >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 22:02:20 -0700 >> From: <michaelcmace@gmail.com> >> To: <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Moraea and Gladiolus hybrids report >> Message-ID: <135101d68b1d$657a3ab0$306eb010$@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Diane wrote: >> >>> They had flowers 16 weeks after germination, mostly in seedlings from G >> primulinus. >> >> Dang! I wonder if it's that particular species, or if all the summer-growing >> Glads are like that. >> >> I've often thought I ought to try crossing the summer and winter growing >> Glads. There were reports that Prof. Koopowitz had a lot of success doing >> that at UC Irvine, but I never heard details. >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 10:42:17 +0100 (BST) >> From: Brian Whyer <brian.whyer@btinternet.com> >> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Moraea and Gladiolus hybrids report >> Message-ID: <6f0e0d5b.8fcc.1749124bba8.Webtop.94@btinternet.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> >> >> Hi >> >> Please clarify "winter growing" Gladiolus. I have been to RSA in winter >> and know it's a different world down there but where does this term fit >> into the northern hemisphere in N. America and the UK? >> >> Brian Whyer, SE UK - Colchicum and Cyclamen time here at present >> Dang! I wonder if it's that particular species, or if all the >> summer-growing >> Glads are like that. >> I've often thought I ought to try crossing the summer and winter growing >> Glads. There were reports that Prof. Koopowitz had a lot of success >> doing >> that at UC Irvine, but I never heard details. >> Mike >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of pbs Digest, Vol 43, Issue 14 >> *********************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 43, Issue 15 > *********************************** _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…