Dear all, It’s the first time I send a message here, so, a I’m a little bit shy and wonder if my message is relevant or not. I am running the seed exchange for MGS and MGi which is partner of many mediterranean gardening societies. So David Tivol who is Californian Horticulture Society’s manager invited us (Mediterranean Gardening France) to a Zoom presentation. The lecturer was Carlos Magdalena « The plant Messiah » and it was very interesting, apart the fact that he is spanish and speaks english with a very strong accent. I am myself french and, unfortunately could not catch very much, but I could watch the Power Point pictures. All this to say that, surely, somebody of you knows David Tivol or one of his team, and could ask him how it works. Chantal Guiraud MGS/MGF Seed List Coordinator Montpellier-France > Le 23 nov. 2020 à 13:00, pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net a écrit : > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Zoom Presentations (Bob Hoel) > 2. Online presentation (Johannes-Ulrich Urban) > 3. Re: BX-SX 472 (Luminita Vollmer) > 4. Re: Iris tuberosa ?Blue Jade? (Robert Lauf) > 5. Re: Photo programs (Jan Jeddeloh) > 6. Re: Photo programs (Kerry Woods) > 7. The Alpine Gardner 90th Anniversary (Jan Jeddeloh) > 8. R: Iris tuberosa Blue jade (ang.por@alice.it) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 07:15:37 -0600 > From: Bob Hoel <bob.hoel@comcast.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Zoom Presentations > Message-ID: <A2EAF903-7922-4888-8E68-65F1D613E644@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Robin, > > If PBS has a licensed (paid) account then the host can designate a co-host (the presenter). A co-host then has almost all the ?privileges? of the host to share their screen. I believe that PBS is already equipped to do the presentations being proposed. Happy to talk this through with whomever is organizing. We personally have a paid account for a number of purposes and are able to do exactly as described. > > Bob Hoel > 630-240-0219 (cell) > > Why drive when you can use active transportation! ? ? ? > >> On Nov 22, 2020, at 6:00 AM, pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net wrote: >> >> From: "R Hansen" <bulbnut@hansennursery.com <mailto:bulbnut@hansennursery.com>> >> To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net <mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>> >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Photo programs >> Message-ID: <001701d6c04a$c1e56ec0$45b04c40$@hansennursery.com <mailto:001701d6c04a$c1e56ec0$45b04c40$@hansennursery.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Robert Lauf raises some good points about the functionality of making these photo programs available. At this time, PBS has an account that allows the Board to meet using Zoom and because we have just the one license, I act as host. I'll be glad to check into an institutional-type account where various members could use it, but there would have to be some planning in terms of scheduling and topics as well as frequency in order for members to find it most useful. This is certainly a topic I will put on the Board's agenda for its February meeting as there is a lot of interest in pursuing these programs. >> >> I'll be saving your suggestions, because to me the most important aspect is accessibility of members to the programs and making a variety of topics available. >> >> Keep up the great ideas! >> >> Robin Hansen >> President, PBS > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 13:21:22 +0000 > From: Johannes-Ulrich Urban <johannes-ulrich-urban@t-online.de> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Online presentation > Message-ID: <5AE91E08-69DA-4105-BC3F-D0D0181159E7@t-online.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Dear All, > > Online presentations are great, I have participated in a few and learn to appreciate Zoom more and more. I am happy to give a talk, show my pictures or take you for a walk through my garden. > I did this walk through my garden with friends and it worked very well. > > I would like to remark two things. As far as I understand Zoom the host can invite the person to give the talk and is not necessarily the one giving the talk himself. But there will be people more knowledgeable than me about this. > > Another point: one of the Zoom presentations I participated in was victim of Zoom bombing and had to be abandoned. It was very unpleasant, especially for the host. If it is announced all too publicly there is a certain risk for that kind of thing. > > Bye for now, > > Uli > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 07:51:44 -0600 > From: Luminita Vollmer <pbslv.xchange@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] BX-SX 472 > Message-ID: > <CALXf-BKr_N=+k8PooWjJXpBL0Gs5_pHMBs+NBPqAMdhYi6aNxA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Robin and all - all the items are seeds in this exchange. > Sorry for not making clear to everyone! > Luminita > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 15:18:00 +0000 (UTC) > From: Robert Lauf <boblauf@att.net> > To: Ceridwen Lloyd via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Iris tuberosa ?Blue Jade? > Message-ID: <703539896.382307.1606058280078@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > This year I got a nice starter collection of Lachenalia species from Telos Rare Bulbs, and the first to bloom is viridiflora.? The color is indeed almost other-worldly.? Making it more interesting, the small buds start out pink, like Virginia bluebell.? I would attach a photo but there are some excellent images on the wiki.? If you're set up to grow dry-summer bulbs, by all means this is a little gem to consider. > The secret seems to be the expression of chlorophyll in the flower, overprinted with dark blue anthos.? Someone should try to get that green gene into hyacinth.... > Bob Lauf. > On Sunday, November 22, 2020, 05:19:39 AM EST, Ceridwen Lloyd via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Ah! A fellow turquoise flower enthusiast, good-o! > I have some lachenalia viridiflora that I purchased as bulbs, living on an outdoor table in smallish terra-cotta pots with only the rain (a little frost pocket in the Adelaide Hills, zone 9 but nearly zone 8 in a La Ni?a year like now) and they flower their little hearts out and have multiplied away like mad in a few short years. > I have Ixia viridiflora in a raised (filled with sandy loam, because we have rocky clay) narrow semicircular stone bed around a tree (which I wish was a jacaranda, but it?s too cold here) and they form a gorgeous hazy penumbra right about now. They flower at the same time as jacaranda and are the perfect colour to sing with them. Someone needs to plant a vast area of these together, like a warm climate version of beech and bluebell woods. > I also adore - though it?s not a bulb - Oxypetalum or Tweedia, and have some seedlings just popping up now. Not quite turquoise, but not quite blue either. > And of course I hang out for the day I can get my hands on Ferraria ferrariola.? I didn?t here hear a peep from Luminita regarding the last bulb exchange so I guess that?s a no. I wonder who the donor was? > I?ve emailed David Glenn at Lambley nursery to see whether any of the original stock is obtainable at all. He is married to the artist Criss Canning and if you Google images for the iris you get to see a painting she did of them. > Cheers, > Ceridwen > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 22 Nov 2020, at 18:37, Lee Poulsen via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> ?Ooh! Ooh! If you find seeds, I want some too. One of my favorite ?topics? of plants to grow are those with flowers in the cyan or teal part of the spectrum. They?re rarer than true blue flowers. A long time ago when the PBS list had some topic discussions, we went through all of the colors on the color wheel, and there was a small discussion of the few flowers that are teal. Luckily two of them are bulbs from the western Cape Province area of South Africa. So if you can grow bulbs from that area, you can try growing Lachenalia viridiflora and Ixia viridiflora. ?Viridiflora? in this case isn?t green. It?s a turquoise/teal/aquamarine color. And they?re stunning. (I had a pot completely full of Lachenalia viridiflora in full bloom one winter and it was so amazing to stare at. You just don?t see that color in nature very often at all.) >> >> Anyway, Jane McGary mentioned that she knew of some Iris tuberosa that were teal in color, but I never found any pictures on the internet, and I?ve ordered various seeds that were supposed to have some bluish flowers, but none of them have been teal. She also mentioned that there was a teal gentian as well. But those aren?t bulbs. >> >> BTW, even if I can?t grow them, I still want to see them in person. There is an absolutely stunning one, that is off-topic because it?s not a bulb, but if you?re offered the opportunity to see the Jade Vine (Strongylodon macrobotrys) in flower, take it. The flowers don?t look like they are real. Sadly, it is tropical and requires a lot of space to grow. Luckily, the Huntington Gardens has an amazing vine growing in their large conservatory greenhouse, and it blooms regularly. >> >> (And in case anyone wants to know the others that I know about, there?s another small tropical called Ecbolium viride, as well as two Puyas, P. alpestris >> and P. berteroniana. The two Puya will grow here, but they get very big and have very spiny leaf edges. Luckily the Huntington grows both of them outside in its famous cactus and succulent garden. Their flowers also look unreal. I would love to grow and see that Iris tuberosa ?Blue Jade?, and see the gentian that Jane knows about because I don?t think it will grow here in Southern California.) >> >> --Lee Poulsen >> Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a >> Latitude 34?N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m >> >>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 4:40 AM, Ceridwen Lloyd via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> This was offered by Lambley Nursery here in Australia in 2017, sadly mine has not survived. >>> Does anyone have plants (in Australia) or seed (elsewhere) at all? >>> Thanks >>> Ceridwen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 10:15:36 -0800 > From: Jan Jeddeloh <janjeddeloh@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Photo programs > Message-ID: <94015C76-4282-4C60-ACF1-926EC5976043@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > As host you should be able to enable screen sharing by participants which would allow the presenter to just share their screen with everyone. This would avoid having to purchase an institutional account as long as you?re willing to host. > > Jan Jeddeloh > >> On Nov 21, 2020, at 1:10 PM, R Hansen via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> Robert Lauf raises some good points about the functionality of making these photo programs available. At this time, PBS has an account that allows the Board to meet using Zoom and because we have just the one license, I act as host. I'll be glad to check into an institutional-type account where various members could use it, but there would have to be some planning in terms of scheduling and topics as well as frequency in order for members to find it most useful. This is certainly a topic I will put on the Board's agenda for its February meeting as there is a lot of interest in pursuing these programs. >> >> I'll be saving your suggestions, because to me the most important aspect is accessibility of members to the programs and making a variety of topics available. >> >> Keep up the great ideas! >> >> Robin Hansen >> President, PBS >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 14:02:37 -0500 > From: Kerry Woods <kwoods@bennington.edu> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Photo programs > Message-ID: > <CAB6FmQXWk3Mp80u2FOAzCoaNikehuwN3VuTPTJiZOrW8EW6Ddg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > A couple of points on use of Zoom for this sort of thing: > * Anybody can sign up for a free account which has full functionality (you > can share-screen to show powerpoint or whatever), but limits number of > participants to 100 and length to 40 min. > * Right sort of paid account (institutional or not) can remove either/both > of those limits ($200/yr = unlimited time, up to 300 participants) > * Hosts (regardless of account type) can assign 'co-host' privilege to any > other participant, and that other person can then share screen, etc. > freely. > > Another option: You can use Zoom (including free version) to record a > presentation, and then share it as an .mpg (doesn't allow interaction, of > course). > > Another option: *Google Meet *works very similarly to Zoom, and is free to > use as host for anyone with a google/gmail account (google meet conference > can include non-gmail emails). I think it works at least as well as zoom - > may have slightly higher bandwidth demands... > > > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 1:15 PM Jan Jeddeloh via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > >> As host you should be able to enable screen sharing by participants which >> would allow the presenter to just share their screen with everyone. This >> would avoid having to purchase an institutional account as long as you?re >> willing to host. >> >> Jan Jeddeloh >> >>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 1:10 PM, R Hansen via pbs < >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >>> >>> Robert Lauf raises some good points about the functionality of making >> these photo programs available. At this time, PBS has an account that >> allows the Board to meet using Zoom and because we have just the one >> license, I act as host. I'll be glad to check into an institutional-type >> account where various members could use it, but there would have to be some >> planning in terms of scheduling and topics as well as frequency in order >> for members to find it most useful. This is certainly a topic I will put on >> the Board's agenda for its February meeting as there is a lot of interest >> in pursuing these programs. >>> >>> I'll be saving your suggestions, because to me the most important aspect >> is accessibility of members to the programs and making a variety of topics >> available. >>> >>> Keep up the great ideas! >>> >>> Robin Hansen >>> President, PBS >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> > > > -- > Kerry D. Woods > Bennington College, Natural Sciences > Dir. of Research, Huron Mt. Wildlife Found. > http://www.hmwf.org/ > http://faculty.bennington.edu/~kwoods/ > kwoods@bennington.edu > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 17:55:24 -0800 > From: Jan Jeddeloh <janjeddeloh@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] The Alpine Gardner 90th Anniversary > Message-ID: <DD9B6E25-099A-4CDC-A0FF-BEDDAEFA7F56@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > The above special AGS publication is available online to non-AGS members at https://alpinegardensociety.net/plants/… <https://alpinegardensociety.net/plants/…> and includes a couple of articles of interest to PBS members. > > John Watson and Anita Flores discuss the history and myths about tecophilia, Brian Matthew writes about the subterranean parts of bulbs and corms and Tony Hall describes a new Juno iris. Other articles are just generally interesting reading for us plant geeks. > > Jan Jeddeloh > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 08:53:13 +0100 (CET) > From: "ang.por@alice.it" <ang.por@alice.it> > To: <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] R: Iris tuberosa Blue jade > Message-ID: <175f417ac66.ang.por@alice.it> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > > > Iris tuberosa is quite common in the countryside around my area and color variants are occasionally seed but very rare. There is a normal variability in the amount of black vs the green part of tepals, some individuals looking almost black. I have spotted from time to time some 'bluish' individuals but not enough distinctive to be collected, so far. But I have found a totally golden individual and after many years another one and for the first time I am sowing seeds from these two cross pollinated each other. If selfed they will yeald green and black plants again, so it's clearly a recessive gene. Also I have never seen any color variant around those yellow in the wild, to confierm it doesn't reproduce true to type.Angelo PorcelliItaly > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 45, Issue 23 > *********************************** _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>