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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Telling BX 463 lots apart (Jane McGary)
2. Allium plummerae (Nicholas plummer)
3. Members' favourite bulbs (Diane)
4. Re: Allium plummerae (Diane)
5. Planting depth & Watsonia indentification (Matt Knowles)
6. Re: Planting depth & Watsonia indentification (Matt Knowles)
7. Re: (Telling BX 463 lots apart.) Velthemia bracteata
(Makiko Goto-Widerman)
8. BX463: Thanks to all! (George Nauyok)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:48:51 -0800
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
To: oooOIOooo via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Telling BX 463 lots apart
Message-ID: <acd6df96-9ad8-17ac-1ebb-ada5d44a28da@earthlink.net>
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Leo,

I used up the glassines first and then switched to the plastic bags,
which I don't like. I think I can answer most of your questions. See below

On 11/19/2019 6:20 PM, oooOIOooo via pbs wrote:

volunteers. I received more than one lot of the same species of some seed,
and the only distinguishing feature is the envelope material. The labels
list only the binomial, not the lot number. Any chance somebody can
distinguish between:

Calochortus catalinae in a small plastic envelope with a zip pressure
closure, and label GTH [? or maybe GTSA] 19-107; GOLDSMITH

closure; MCGARY

THESE, BUT ALL SHOULD BE THE TYPICAL PINKISH FORM.

closure, 6 seeds;

closure, about 25 seeds?

planting as many of the winter growers as I can tonight and tomorrow.

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 13:29:22 -0500
From: Nicholas plummer <nickplummer@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: [pbs] Allium plummerae
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For obvious nomenclatural reasons, I'm intrigued by Allium plummerae
(though as far as I know, I'm no relation to Sara Plummer Lemmon).
However, I have never seen the species offered for sale, and I have no idea
whether it would adapt to cultivation in a hot, humid east coast
environment.

Can anyone comment on either point? Where might I obtain seed or bulbs,
and is it possible to grow them in North Carolina?

Nick Plummer
Durham, North Carolina, Zone 7
https://sweetgumandpines.wordpress.com/

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 11:47:39 -0800
From: Diane <voltaire@islandnet.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: [pbs] Members' favourite bulbs
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New members are asked what their favourite bulbs are.

I have started compiling a list to see which are the most popular this
year. This will take a while, as we have had a lot of new members.

Some answers are very broad - like Hyacinthaceae. Others very specific -
not a whole genus, but just one species.

Then there are unusual ones, like Resnova. I had to look that one up.
Luckily it is in our wiki - Drimiopsis and Scilla are synonyms of Resnova,
and it might end up being a Ledebouria.

I?m curious about that one - I don?t think we?ve ever had any posts about
it. I wonder how many people are growing it.

Well, I will carry on counting. I hope to have the list done by Christmas.

Diane Whitehead

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 13:25:30 -0800
From: Diane <voltaire@islandnet.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Allium plummerae
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Mark McDonough grows it near Boston. He wrote he has never had a
self-sown seedling. There are photos of it in his post on the Scottish
Rock Garden Club Forum:
http://srgc.net/forum/index.php/…

Diane Whitehead

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 14:00:04 -0800
From: Matt Knowles <matt@aestheticdesign.com>
To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Subject: [pbs] Planting depth & Watsonia indentification
Message-ID: <6CE6393B-95F3-46D8-B324-C2FA0CBDEC67@aestheticdesign.com>
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My first post to the list, so I hope this goes well and I do it right.

I?ve been planting the bulbs I received from the recent BX, and first I
want to thank everyone who contributed, and those who dedicated their time
organizing and mailing out the contributions. It was doing an Internet
search after seeing a photo of Moraea that I first discovered PBS, so I?m
tickled to have some Moraea bulbs and seeds to try out.

This is my first time planting non-commercial bulbs and I?m not really
sure what to do regarding planting depth. I?m guessing that tiny buls that
are only a half inch or less need to be pretty close to the surface, but
how close? Is there a general rule to go by for bulbs? I spent yesterday
reading through the wiki as I was in bed with a cold, but I couldn?t find
any information for planting depth. Might have been there, but I kept
getting distracted by the interesting articles I came across.

I?m also hoping some of you can help identify some Watsonia that I have.
The original batch that I started with came from my grandmother?s garden.
For 15 years or so, all we had was the pink ones, and then, two summers
ago, some showed up that were white, and even one showed up that was
orange. At first glance I thought i was some Crocosmia that had escaped
it?s allowed boundary, but on closer inspection I realized it was Watsonia.

The Watsonia blooms Juy-September, dies back in October, and new growth
has already started. They get about 4-5 feet tall and require no
maintenance in out wet climate other than cutting the dead growth every
year. I?ve been busy dividing them this fall, and would like to send some
bulbs to the list next year, but I would like to identify the species first.

Matt Knowles
Aesthetic Design & Photography
Ferndale, CA
http://www.aestheticdesign.com/
707-786-4643

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 14:06:19 -0800
From: Matt Knowles <matt@aestheticdesign.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Planting depth & Watsonia indentification
Message-ID: <FA9AEB76-11E6-4B6F-9A4C-E31B561B7C54@aestheticdesign.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

Must have done something wrong. I attached two jpg files but I?m not
seeing the scrubbed part of the message with the links to the images. I?m
using Apple Mail, and attached the images, they were not inline.

On Nov 20, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Matt Knowles <matt@aestheticdesign.com>
wrote:

want to thank everyone who contributed, and those who dedicated their time
organizing and mailing out the contributions. It was doing an Internet
search after seeing a photo of Moraea that I first discovered PBS, so I?m
tickled to have some Moraea bulbs and seeds to try out.

sure what to do regarding planting depth. I?m guessing that tiny buls that
are only a half inch or less need to be pretty close to the surface, but
how close? Is there a general rule to go by for bulbs? I spent yesterday
reading through the wiki as I was in bed with a cold, but I couldn?t find
any information for planting depth. Might have been there, but I kept
getting distracted by the interesting articles I came across.

The original batch that I started with came from my grandmother?s garden.
For 15 years or so, all we had was the pink ones, and then, two summers
ago, some showed up that were white, and even one showed up that was
orange. At first glance I thought i was some Crocosmia that had escaped
it?s allowed boundary, but on closer inspection I realized it was Watsonia.

has already started. They get about 4-5 feet tall and require no
maintenance in out wet climate other than cutting the dead growth every
year. I?ve been busy dividing them this fall, and would like to send some
bulbs to the list next year, but I would like to identify the species first.

Matt Knowles
Aesthetic Design & Photography
http://www.aestheticdesign.com/
707-786-4643

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 14:14:35 -0800
From: Makiko Goto-Widerman <mfdgardenclub@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] (Telling BX 463 lots apart.) Velthemia bracteata
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Brian,

Yes, they are very tough and low maintenance, however, it took many many
years to see a flower. I have over 50 plants. None of them were killed so
far. Their shiny dark green color leaves are valuable even without a
flower during dark fall to winter season even in California.

*Makiko Goto-Widerman*
Makiko Floral Design Garden Club 501 c 3
5950 Alpine Road
Portola Valley, CA 94028
(650) 275-4334
MFDgardenclub@gmail.com
http://www.mfdgardenclub.us/
<MFDgardenclub@gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 1:50 AM Brian Whyer via pbs <
pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 23:59:09 +0000
From: George Nauyok <gnsanfrancisco@hotmail.com>
To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net"
<pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: [pbs] BX463: Thanks to all!
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I want to thank the volunteers who executed the BX so flawlessly, and to
thank the donors who contributed to the (further) beautification of my
postage-stamp-sized San Francisco yard.

George Nauyok
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Today's Topics:

1. Surplus seed - no double dipping please (Jane McGary)
2. Re: Surplus seed - no double dipping please (Mike Rummerfield)
3. Apology to our overseas members (Jane McGary)
4. Crinum flaccidum seeds (Carol Ballard)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 10:43:32 -0800
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: [pbs] Surplus seed - no double dipping please
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If you've already ordered seeds from the original offering, you will
find that the items that ended up in the Surplus are coming to you in
ample quantity -- not 5 seeds per packet as has sometimes happened in
the SX. I've already processed, packed, labeled, and stamped your order.
No need to order the same thing again to make sure you have enough.

However, Jim Barton of Modesto, CA, donated large quantities of some of
the California native species he grows, so I can send these in
quantities suitable for public gardens, or revegetation efforts. Please
inquire.

Also, please don't copy the whole offering list into your reply, because
I have to print out your order.

And be sure you include your postal address, because I can't shoot these
seeds through the internet!

Best regards,

Jane McGary

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 10:44:27 -0800
From: Mike Rummerfield <mikerumm@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Surplus seed - no double dipping please
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Re: "And be sure you include your postal address, because I can't shoot
these
seeds through the internet!"

Thank you for the humor, Jane, and a big thank you to you and all the
others helping to get the SX/Bx out, and the backlog distributed.

Regards,
Mike

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 10:32 AM Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
wrote:

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 15:31:00 -0800
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: [pbs] Apology to our overseas members
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In the offer of surplus seeds, I specified that it was for USA members
only. I'm sorry, but the reason is that it takes a long time to do the
documentation, because the US now requires a long customs form with lots
of useless details that don't fit in the spaces on the form! The Post
Office no longer provides an option for doing this online for first
class, and we are not going to spend $35 per envelope to send overseas
priority mail of a few seeds. Or bill you for it. I just hand-wrote all
the overseas orders from the initial offering, and I have writer's cramp
from the triplicate forms. Nobody will ever look at them, I suppose. If
you ordered only a very few seeds (like 1 or 2 packets) I will mail them
to you personally in a Christmas card.

When the regular BX resumes with a new manager (I'm just a volunteer who
stepped in), he or she should be able to use a mailing system that
allows more efficient processing.

Jane McGary

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:00:56 +1100
From: "Carol Ballard" <agentletouch1@ipstarmail.com.au>
To: <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: [pbs] Crinum flaccidum seeds
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Hi all, I live about 70 klm or 40 miles North of Nyngan, New South Wales,
Australia. I am currently watching about 20+ populations of Crinum
flaccidum
white flowered form, which is native to this area & much of NSW, Victoria &
South Australia, we are in drought atm but have had in some areas around
some rain which has triggered growth of the Crinum flaccidum bulbs. They
will flower possibly end of this month or into December/January not sure
how
long afterwards the seeds will form & take to mature. Please be aware that
we are beginning to come into the Australian summer here.

I will be harvesting a few seeds from each population (some populations can
cover 1 acre or up to several hundred acres.) Which I will label with
letters to keep each genetic line different. These populations that I am
monitoring are about 3 - 10 klm apart from each other.

Would any members be interested in some of the seeds, they are recaltricant
& germinate within about 2 -3 weeks of becoming ripe, sometimes in the seed
capsule itself. I have harvested a few seeds & have them growing in
polystyrene boxes, they are quite slow growing.

If you are interested in some seeds please contact me, my email is
agentletouch1@ipstarmail.com.au.

Thank you, Ann Ballard

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