It does not explain the leucojum question but the following might be of interest: My father used to name snowdrops in dutch: Vastenavond zotjes translated shrove tuesday? fools. I think this is because they were so foolish to appear above ground so early in the year (My explanation). From that summer fools for leucojum seems to be derived I have never heard it in The Netherlands. Zomer klokjes is the usual dutch name (translated Summer bells) although they flower in spring! Ben Zonneveld Op ma 12 nov. 2018 om 13:00 schreef < pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>: > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Bulbs on sale (Diana Chapman) > 2. Re: Bulbs on sale (James Waddick) > 3. Donations from bulb sale (Diana Chapman) > 4. Leucojum aestivum lore (Elaine Jek) > 5. Re: Leucojum aestivum lore (Arnold Trachtenberg) > 6. Re: Leucojum aestivum lore (Jim McKenney) > 7. Re: Leucojum aestivum lore (mark smyth) > 8. Re: Leucojum aestivum lore (Peter Franks) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 07:55:50 -0800 > From: Diana Chapman <rarebulbs@suddenlink.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulbs on sale > Message-ID: <bb1195e1-3be4-4672-ec62-6474051cc098@suddenlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > All proceeds from the bulb sale are being donated to help the victims of > the Camp fire in Paradise, California. > > I used to live very close to the town of Paradise, and knew many people > who lived there.? I go back every year to that area to collect seeds, > and the native bulb enthusiasts who have bought from me undoubtedly have > bulbs that came from seed from the area. The bulbs will survive.? The > community is gone. > > So with the sale, you get bulbs, the victims get some help, albeit a > tiny drop in the enormous ocean of help needed.? If you can, donate > directly, to the American Red Cross, or to local charities who are on > the ground helping.? You can find them by Googling how to help victims > of the Camp fire. > > Diana Chapman > Telos Rare Bulbs > > > > Telos Rare Bulbs is having a sale:? http://www.telosrarebulbs.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:53:13 -0600 > From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulbs on sale > Message-ID: <C990304F-4946-4D87-8A8F-94CB002E3DEB@kc.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Dear PBS friends - > > I did not coordinate with Diana, but her offer is an excellent way > to aid the people suffering in the CA fires, but also get you new bulbs. I > am willing to bet that if you added $20 or more to your order and asked for > this money to go to these same local charities she?d be very willing and > you?d feel much better. And she is having a sale, too. > > Jim W.. > > > > > On Nov 11, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Diana Chapman <rarebulbs@suddenlink.net> > wrote: > > All proceeds from the bulb sale are being donated to help the victims of > the Camp fire in Paradise, California. > > I used to live very close to the town of Paradise, and knew many people > who lived there. I go back every year to that area to collect seeds, and > the native bulb enthusiasts who have bought from me undoubtedly have bulbs > that came from seed from the area. The bulbs will survive. The community > is gone. > > So with the sale, you get bulbs, the victims get some help, albeit a tiny > drop in the enormous ocean of help needed. If you can, donate directly, to > the American Red Cross, or to local charities who are on the ground > helping. You can find them by Googling how to help victims of the Camp > fire. > > Diana Chapman > Telos Rare Bulbs > > > > Telos Rare Bulbs is having a sale: http://www.telosrarebulbs.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:29:05 -0800 > From: Diana Chapman <rarebulbs@suddenlink.net> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: [pbs] Donations from bulb sale > Message-ID: <cf92f38f-a87d-a6ac-ff6d-18997d5ca6bf@suddenlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > The first donation of? $300 has been sent to the North Valley Community > Foundation, specifically to help the evacuees of the fire.? More orders > have come in, and I will keep you posted.? Their link is: > https://nvcf.org/fund/… > > Diana > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 18:43:51 -0800 > From: Elaine Jek <elainej@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore > Message-ID: > <CAG4qQ3Ws_nzev9kiHB0+k6_FQzJvunQWrOUNgndG= > 4q0zjn8KQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated with > them. For example, a red rose means love. > > I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum, > commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found anything > on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the > snowflake.) > > It's the most charming thing in my garden right now. > > Would anyone here know? > > If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the flower > inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-) > > Elaine. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 03:47:18 +0000 (UTC) > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore > Message-ID: <2059506372.763604.1541994438236@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Elaine: > In John Bryan's book, Manual of Bulbs he states > "Leucojum from Greek Leukos meaning white and ion relating to violet > referring to the delicate fragrance. > aestivum? Greek "of summer" > ArnoldNew Jersey > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elaine Jek <elainej@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Sent: Sun, Nov 11, 2018 9:44 pm > Subject: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore > > I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated with > them. For example, a red rose means love. > > I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum, > commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found anything > on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the > snowflake.) > > It's the most charming thing in my garden right now. > > Would anyone here know? > > If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the flower > inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-) > > Elaine. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 03:48:55 +0000 (UTC) > From: Jim McKenney <jamesamckenney@verizon.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore > Message-ID: <987306898.696850.1541994535649@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Elaine, this does not answer your question, but I think it is interesting. > The name Leucojum is derived from the classical Greek words for "white" and > "violet" .?But here's what I find interesting: in German, the very similar > word Levkoje is used for the flower known in English as stocks (genus > Matthiola). The German word is also based on the Greek "white violet". I > have not found out when Levkoje was introduced in German. I didn't see it > in the Fuchs herbal. The modern German word for Leucojum is > Knotenblume.?Jim McKenney > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 06:50:12 -0000 > From: "mark smyth" <mark@marksgardenplants.com> > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore > Message-ID: <001801d47a53$f8f2e850$ead8b8f0$@marksgardenplants.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > St. Agnes flower in one of my books > > I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated with > > them. For example, a red rose means love. > > I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum, > > commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found anything > > on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the > > snowflake.) > > It's the most charming thing in my garden right now. > > Would anyone here know? > > If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the flower > > inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-) > > Elaine. > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > _____ > > I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len/ > > > . > SPAMfighter has removed 1281 of my spam emails to date. > > Do you have a slow PC? < > http://spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter/?cid=sigen> > Try a free scan! > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 17:51:17 +1100 > From: "Peter Franks" <peter.scaevola@gmail.com> > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore > Message-ID: <003501d47a54$1e857010$5b905030$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Elaine, > > Here's an extract from "Flowers and their Histories" [Alice M Coats, 1956, > p. 141] "Gerard and Parkinson called it [L. aestivum] Early Summer Fooles > or > Summer Sottekins - a name derived from the Dutch. I do not know the > explanation, unless it is that the plant fools us by looking like a > snowdrop > in May." > > I've checked in Stern's "Snowdrops and Snowflakes" [1954] with no luck. > Same > result from Farrer's "English Rock Garden". > > I hope this is of some interest > > Regards > > Peter Franks > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> On Behalf Of Elaine > Jek > Sent: Monday, 12 November 2018 1:44 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Leucojum aestivum lore > > I thought all flowers have a story or cultural significance associated with > them. For example, a red rose means love. > > I've been trying to find a 'flower meaning' for the Leucojum aestivum, > commonly called summer snowflake or Loddon lily, and haven't found anything > on the internet. (There's tons of associations for snowdrop but not the > snowflake.) > > It's the most charming thing in my garden right now. > > Would anyone here know? > > If no one knows, lets suggest a significance and which trait of the flower > inspired it, just for fun. Or maybe I'll come up with a story. :-) > > Elaine. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 21, Issue 8 > ********************************** > -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Ben Zonneveld Gastonderzoeker 071-751 9158 ben.zonneveld@naturalis.nl - http://www.naturalis.nl/ Herbarium: Nieuwenhuizenweg 19, 2324 XP Leiden POST: via Vondellaan 55 2332 AA Leiden Of : Postbus 9517, 2300 RA Leiden _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…