George, Seeds require treatment. They have a very tough outer coat that should be nicked to allow for better germination. There are other treatments that may be effective too. If you can't find seed, Las Pilitas in Santa Margarita sells plants. John Wickham On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:56 PM, George Goldsmith <g_goldsmith@hotmail.com> wrote: I'm writing to see if anyone on the list has had experience growing either of the two California native peonies, Paeonia brownii or Paeonia californica. If so, can you provide any guidance on growing these from seed? Also, if anyone is aware of sources for seeds for these two plants, that would be helpful also. Thank you. George Goldsmith (33.998702, -117.797542) _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…