Oops, sorry to write to the list and include the previous messages as I thought Rimmer was just writing to me and I haven't figured out how to filter my messages in a new email program directly into a pbs folder like I could in Eudora. Still perhaps my message will stimulate someone who knows to tell us more about how to identify Romulea engleri and how it differs from the weedy Romulea rosea. We actually saw some really nice larger Romulea rosea forms in South Africa that were a lot more desirable. Mary Sue