As the Paramongia weberbaurii is almost flowering, was trying to work out how to get pollen accepted. Was given the name of Christopher Ong in Australia to ask. His answer is: The idea is to stimulate the ‘pistil’ into accepting potential growing pollen tube. This is quite extraordinary in the plant world. For example, we use to mixed in ‘hibiscus’ pollen with other pollen and just use that without even microwaving or killing the hibiscus pollen first as we know that hibiscus is not compactible with the plant we are trying to pollinate but somehow stimulate the pistil to accept the pollen from like compatible plants. In your case I would suggest using Permianthe peruviana pollen if available. Microwave these pollens for around 1 to 2 minutes to kill them. Let it cool for a minute and then mix that with the Paramongaia pollen before applying. If you do not have other suitable ones then I would suggest using pollen from one plant onto the other. Don’t worry about it being of the same clone (that cannot be help) but treat the component parts as suggested below first. Collect the pollens and then treat then with a dash of diluted nectar from other flowers. Leave it for about half an hour and then apply with a brush. What happen here is that the pollen is already stimulated and the pollen tube may start to grow and develop. Some people also brush the stigma with the same solution about 5 minutes prior to application of the pollen. Such techniques are very subjective and may not work all the time. We had plants that worked one year and not the next. I would suggest doing the pollination in the early morning or evening when the plants should be more receptive. So it is not foolproof, but worth a try. As I had looked over the years how to do this, at least this is from someone who has used this method and sometimes it has worked. Ina Crossley Auckland, New Zealand _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/