Thanks, Erin, that's just the sort of encouragement I'm hoping for.I've already given thought to slathering hypertufa over the cinder block to change the look.This project is going to be a lot of fun. Jim McKenney Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where at 45 degrees F and a stiff breeze it's no day to be sitting in the garden daydreaming about the lilies. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/