Formal botanical nomenclature rarely deals with names at the clonal level, Fortunately. In order to demonstrate that Tulipa clusiana the pentaploid “non species” is somehow different from T. clusiana the accepted pentaploid species, it would have to be shown that T. clusiana Hort., let’s say (the “non species), is actually the tulip referred to in old gardening books, and is T. clusiana DC, or different from it, or similar to it, and that if it’s to be called a clone, then every bulb is genetically identical and has been since 1607 when Clusius first flowered it. Unless, of course, earlier descriptions of T. clusiana were mistaken. Bob Nold Denver, Colorado USA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/