Hi Steve, I think you're right. That and a couple of other factors were definitely not to the clivia's liking, but I've learned a lot form that experience and that's why I'm a little cautious on the use of coir. -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of steven hart Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 7:10 AM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Coco Coir question Hi Fred perhaps the clivias didn't like the times when the coco retains moisture, they aren't fond of wet roots