pbs Digest, Vol 143, Issue 6
Seaton Ager (Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:17:29 PST)

Thanks for all the people who gave me great contacts, some of my intererests are Frits, crocus, tulip sp, arisaema, and bulbs in general, lilies the list goes on.

mel

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Today's Topics:

1. Pot size for Babiana sambucina (Fernando Cecilio)
2. introduction (Johannes Ulrich Urban)
3. Re: When to repot Lachenalias (Leo Martin)
4. Re: When to repot Lachenalias? (Arnold)
5. Re: When to repot Lachenalias? (Lee Poulsen)
6. Buying seed please (Melanie Ager)
7. Re: When to repot Lachenalias? (Michael Mace)
8. Re: [Bulk] Buying seed please (Bracey Tiede)
9. Re: Buying seed please (Kipp McMichael)
10. Re: Buying seed please (Peter Taggart)
11. Re: Buying seed please (Jonathan)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 10:38:18 +0000
From: Fernando Cecilio <fcecilio58@gmail.com>
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Subject: [pbs] Pot size for Babiana sambucina
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Greetings again!
I have 4-5 bulbs of seed grown Babiana sambucina still in the deep 10cm
square plastic pot where I germinated them five years ago. They each year,
and the leaf fans are now about 6" long but still rather thin leaves. No
flowers, of course... they must be potted on.
How big a pot would you recomend for them, and when should I do it?
Any particular advice on these plants?
Thanks
Fernando

Portugal
Climate Mediterranean K?ppen-Geiger *Csb*

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:22:29 +0100
From: Johannes Ulrich Urban <johannes-ulrich-urban@t-online.de>
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Welcome Fernando,

Portugal is a very beautiful country rich in native plants, including
bulbs, I have been twice and on one of the trips went from North to
South through the whole country to get an impression. That was in a wet
spring and there were flowers everywhere.
Where in Portugal do you live?

Welcome to this group, it is a nice group and there are also quite a few
European members....

Bye for today and all the best for the Holidays for yourself and the group

Uli

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 08:37:30 -0700
From: Leo Martin <stnalpsoel@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] When to repot Lachenalias
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Fernando wrote

When would you advise me to
[repot Lachenalia]?

Welcome to the group.

I don't think repotting time matters much to Lachenalia. It is easier
during dormancy. If you are careful not to break too many roots, repotting
during active growth is fine, too, even for small seedlings. A very sandy
soil mix in the original container helps prevent root damage during
repotting.

Leo Martin
Zone 11 so far this winter
Phoenix Arizona USA

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 09:48:16 -0500
From: Arnold <arnold140@verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] When to repot Lachenalias?
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Fernando:

I repot my Lachenalia either at the end of their growth or just before they come into growth in August. I've always repotted on the crowded side in a four to six inch pot.

Arnold
New Jersey USA

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 08:16:19 -0800
From: Lee Poulsen <wpoulsen@pacbell.net>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] When to repot Lachenalias?
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I agree with Leo. In the summer when they are dormant, you can repot them at any time. Although I don't think you should leave the bulbs exposed without soil or something around them for too long. (I.e., after removing them from the 10 cm pots, put them into the new pot the same day.)

After they have started growing, you can repot them into a larger pot if you take then entire 10-cm clump including soil and place it into the new pot and place soil below and around it, but keep the surface of the clump at the same level in the new pot. I have found it is better to repot already-growing plants early in their growing season so that they have most of the growing season to adjust to the new pot. And as others have said, try to disturb the roots as little as possible.

I believe in your climate that Lachenalias will almost grow all by themselves with very little need for special care. I haven't tried growing them in the ground, but I think they would do very well here in Southern California as long as they are in a location that does not receive water during the summer. Isn't Portugal's climate similar to California's?

--Lee Poulsen
Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a
Latitude 34?N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m

On Dec 21, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Fernando Cecilio <fcecilio58@gmail.com> wrote:

Greetings!
I have a few pots of seed grown Lachenalias (various species).

When would you advise me to do it? During dormancy or while in growth?
Any particular advice on these plants?

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 08:27:38 +1300
From: Melanie Ager <m.ager@xtra.co.nz>
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Subject: [pbs] Buying seed please
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Hi All
Can people out there give me good sources of buying seeds please, I do buy from Silverhill Seeds and they are fabulous, but would love some other sources please

Regards Mel in NZ

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:32:27 -0800
From: "Michael Mace" <michaelcmace@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] When to repot Lachenalias?
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Welcome to the list, Fernando!

You asked when you should repot Lachenalia. The short answer is: when they
are dormant.

I think that's true for almost all bulbs. The major exception I'm aware of
is the Amaryllids which have perennial roots even when they look dormant.
Those seem to be happiest if repotted at the start of the leaf-growing
season, when they can more easily replace roots that get damaged in
repotting.

As for other tips on Lachenalias... The bulbs are delicate and can get dried
out, so don't leave them out of the pots for too long when you repot them
(but they tolerate my summers in California, which are much drier than
yours, so I think you won't have a major problem). Give them plenty of sun
or they'll get tall and floppy. And they're relatively tender to frost,
although I do not think that will be an issue in your climate north of
Lisbon.

If you're looking for insights on a particular Lachenalia species, look
online to find the bulb's exact native location. A search on iSpot can help:
http://ispotnature.org/communities/…

Then you can use the PBS climate maps to compare your climate to the bulb's
climate in South Africa. Here is the map for Europe:
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/…

Here's the map for South Africa:
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/…
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Here's the overall article on how to read the maps:
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…

Have fun!

Mike
San Jose, CA
(zone 9, min temp 20F / -7C)

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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:35:40 -0800
From: "Bracey Tiede" <tiede@pacbell.net>
To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] [Bulk] Buying seed please
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Check out:

http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…

Cheers,
Bracey
San Jose CA
Zones 9B/16

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Subject: [Bulk] [pbs] Buying seed please

Hi All
Can people out there give me good sources of buying seeds please, I do buy
from Silverhill Seeds and they are fabulous, but would love some other
sources please

Regards Mel in NZ

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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:37:41 -0800
From: Kipp McMichael <kimcmich@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] Buying seed please
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Mel,
I also patronize Lifestyle Seeds in South Africa (a South African focus - but the selection isn't even close to Silverhill's).
Gordon Summerfield has an annual fall catalog of seeds and bulbs (pretty extensive selection of South African seeds and seedlings).
Mesa Garden offers seed of many succulent and some bulbous plants from South Africa.
There are a few ebay seed sellers, too - but I am suspicious most of them are Silverhill resellers...
-|<ipp

From: m.ager@xtra.co.nz
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 08:27:38 +1300
To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [pbs] Buying seed please

Hi All
Can people out there give me good sources of buying seeds please, I do buy from Silverhill Seeds and they are fabulous, but would love some other sources please

Regards Mel in NZ

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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:48:07 +0000
From: Peter Taggart <petersirises@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] Buying seed please
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what kinds of plant? Do you want specific families or genera. Do you want
American species, or mediteranean plants.....
Peter (UK)

On 21 December 2014 at 19:27, Melanie Ager <m.ager@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

Hi All
Can people out there give me good sources of buying seeds please, I do buy
from Silverhill Seeds and they are fabulous, but would love some other
sources please

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 20:12:20 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jonathan <fatsia1234-pbsx1@yahoo.com>
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I have had attentive customer service and very good germination results with seed from African Bulbs/Rhoda and Cameron McMaster. ?As you look through the Wiki you may notice ?that many of the pictures of South African bulbs were taken by them. Their website, africanbulbs.com ?,??is listed on the "Sources" page but, since they sell both seeds and bulbs, you would have to scroll to the bottom of the "Bulbs" list to find them under "Sources in the rest of the world".
Jonathan LubarAlachua, Florida z8b ?

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