The biggest disadvantage PBS has vs other online venues is the lack of images as related to immediate topics. FB and other forums excel at this. The biggest problem FB groups have is the total lack of archiving and long term usefulness. In some specialty groups amazing images are shown even new species to science and hybrids or variants never shown before. These often disappear as older posts that can't be searched for and these extremely valuable posts and images are basically forgotten about. PBS posts are archived and searchable. For useful info the PBS wiki is THE source on the web. Instead of trying to compete with the many bulb groups and numerous specialty groups. The PBS should use their Facebook page as means to attract new members of course but also pull from the huge FB base to enhance the Wiki. It takes a bit more effort to add to the wiki than many are willing to do, however many people have no problem sharing their photos and knowledge. We can encourage current members to post their photos to the FB page (either on topic photos, or just good photos they want to share). It should be stated that by posting photos you are giving permission to add these to the wiki. Photos can be placed in genera photo folders and when somebody wants to work on the wiki they can pull from this resource. Anyone choosing to work on a particular genus should be encourage to ask for help from these various groups as well. For many plant groups the number of photos and species displayed on FB has far exceeded any other online source. Just an example to prove the usefulness of FB: I've come across about 6 new spp of Zingiber via FB friends and group postings etc. I'm in contact with the expert on this genus and have been passing info on these as well as trying to source material for him. I've already gotten a few and have important info on them. They would have made there way to taxonomists eventually... In a decade or two, and without any collection data etc. I've come across several other new species of gingers on FB often by accident just looking at friends stored photos. It's a great resource if you use it well. Tim Chapman