Alani startled most of us with > I have grown Crinum thaianum for about 20 years.... > ...the foliage which can easily get up to 9-12 ft > long or more.... I guess I better find one this summer and put it into my 6' / 1.83m wide by 12' / 3.66m long by 4' / 1.23m deep pond and see what happens. My water is routinely over 80 F / 27C for 6-7 months or more. Leo Martin Phoenix Arizona USA