Thanks Ernie. Nhu's review of my pics matched all of the labels. The only one that I need an ID still would be this one: http://flickr.com/photos/shoalcreeksucculents/… http://flickr.com/photos/shoalcreeksucculents/… Thanks, Lisa -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of pelarg@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 5:28 PM To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Subject: Re: [pbs] Questions on Massonia Hi Lisa, For seeds, they should be viable for a few years at least at room temps, if refrigerated they should be viable for more than a decade. As for identifications in the genus, can't be much help here beyond what the wiki shows, there are more knowledgeable folks on this subject than me. Ernie DeMarie Briarcliff Manor, NY -----Original Message----- From: Shoal Creek Succulents <group@shoalcreeksucculents.com> To: 'Pacific Bulb Society' <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 6:05 pm Subject: [pbs] Questions on Massonia Happy Holidays & Happy New Year- I am reviewing my Massonia plants and the Wiki. I have the following questions: For someone who grows many of these; what would be a consist list of species? Massonia bifolia Massonia depressa Massonia echinata (≡ M. hirsuta, M. setulosa) *Massonia etesionamibensis Massonia jasminiflora (≡M. sempervivens) Massonia pustulata (≡M. longipes) Massonia pygmaea ssp. pygmaea (pustulate or papilate leaves) ssp. kamiesbergensis (glabrous leaves) *Massonia sessiliflora Massonia wittebergensis [2010] Two items with asterisks are not listed in the Wiki. Thoughts? Items above in parentheses are treated as separate items in Wiki, but noted as synonyms. Thoughts? I have one plant I would like an ID (0946) if possible and any comments on the rest would be appreciated. I suspect the flower would be the key to ID, which should be soon. http://flickr.com/photos/shoalcreeksucculents/… Lastly; what is the viability of seed in terms of time. Obviously, fresh seed is best - but how long before it wouldn’t be worthwhile to purchase? Thanks much... Best regards, Lisa - _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/