Thanks Nhu, These 2 bulbs came from the same source. I expect this is their first bloom, so wouldn't qualify as fully mature. All I can do is try to pollinate them both. I've corresponded with another member who wants to try a pollen swap. RandyR Dahlonega, GA zone 7b in reply to: Nhu Nguyen (Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:19:27 PDT) Hi Randy, Unless those two bulbs are from two different clones, they will not self readily. With that said, when the bulbs are mature enough and in the right conditions, you can force them to self and they may make one or two seeds. However, it doesn't appear that the seeds are viable. I have tried this several times but the seeds just rot off before germination. Nhu Berkeley, CA On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Randy.R <steyrhahn@yahoo.com> wrote: I would like very much to obtain fertile seeds from them. I can't find any written information online or in the WIKI about pollinating, growing seeds, and then planting/germinating. I believe I have read that they will not self-pollinate. Is that correct