It does look like it might be straight *dalenii*, doesn't it? It certainly would explain the hardiness. I guess I always assumed it was a fancy hybrid given the source, and somehow I'd managed to never notice a photo of typical *dalenii*, only forms and hybrids with no red in them. The nanus hybrid 'Atom' survived only one winter under the same conditions. The former mystery glads haven't been touched since 2005, though they have stopped flowering, probably because I haven't weeded them in years. Sean Z Zone 6a SE Michigan