Hi Daniel and Steven. Thanks for the welcome. Steven, be glad to swap crinum (or other) seeds once I have something of interest. Am currently growing about 50 assorted bulbispermum from seed started last year in June and July. And started 5 C.macowanii seeds about a month ago, of which 2 have germinated so far. Oh, and maybe 1 scabrum seed grown myself (I gave up on it but I have something unknown coming up in an unlabelled pot, and thats what I think it is). The crinum I have are listed on a web page (work in progress) at http://randyrick.us/FlowerGarden/index.htm I will admit to wanting to try some flaccidum/luteolum but from everything I've been able to read, its very difficult to grow outside its native habitat. I did manage to start some cyclamen from Australian seed. Daniel, I have 40 or so different crinum in the ground here. This was their first winter, but based on the early signs of activity, most of them seem to have survived. We did get quite a bit of rain this winter although I expect not as much as you get in the PNW. I have another 15 or so medium size crinum in 3 gallon pots and large pots with a dozen or so each of either small pups or recently germinated seed which were pulled into an attached garage where the temperature stayed in the 40-50degree F range over the winter. In my heated house, another 2 dozen or so 1 gallon pots with pups in them came to a large wire shelf inside some sliding glass doors (a couple hours sunshine each day) where they continued to grow over the winter along with some small pots with seedlings. Outside, I haven't pulled back the mulch everywhere yet to check but will over the next week or so as I get rid of the winter's weeds. Many of the crinum are now showing signs of leaf growth. None retained their leaves over winter, although a couple larger bulbispermum retained a short green 'trunk'. This was a very mild winter with temps only dropping into the teens a few nights, only a few days where the temps didn't get above freezing, and no snow cover at all. So, I may have been quite lucky in terms of being able to get my crinum established without a lot of winter trauma. I have a few known tender crinum that will always have to be brought in, although I may experiment with extra offsets at some point in the future. There is a list of crinum grown by Tony Avent of Plant Delights which is also zone 7b. The list is on Marcelle Sheppard's web pages at http://marcellescrinums.com/html/hardiness.html Randy.R zone 7b Dahlonega GA USA Steven (Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:05:02 PDT) > >Hello Randy Rick, it's great to have a new crinum enthusiast aboard : ) i live I'n Australia so can't drop I'n for a coffee, but will be up for swapping a seed or information, if your interest turns to a collection : ) >------- >Daniel Kerr (Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:29:48 PDT) > >WelcomeRandy: >Please post info on your Crinum experiences!I'm in zone 7b in Western Washington State. I've been afraid to over-winter my Crinum bulbs here; thinking they'd rot. Let me know how yours do; and what you do with them. >Thanks, >dan > >Subject: Re: [pbs] Introduction >Sent from my iPhone >On Mar 12, 2012, at 11:13 PM, "Randy.R" <steyrhahn@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hello all, Just joined PBS today after being encouraged to join by others I've corresponded with on the Crinum Yahoo list.