In message <DD3EC18B0E12417BA14B0C565FABDA54@RobinPC>, Robin Carrier <robin@no1bird.com> writes >I'm sorry. I've looked it up and still can't find what a "plunge bed" is?? >thanks Like a large area of sand that you sink your pots in to provide a reservoir of moisture and temperature. ISTR someone mentioned a few months back that as one can get black plastic sleeves to grow plants in, there's a version made of woven fibre, so a bit like plastic but a bit like clay because it breathes. I looked at the web site at the time and great claims were being made for it. Does raise the question why are pots made black, instead of white which would be a bit more temperature stable or even metalised - as some decorative pots are. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net/ post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK