Hi Frank Thank you very much ! I like it , sounds like a recipe for success. The cacti mix under is a fantastic idea i have a slight problem with too much water retention, so i will try with my next trays. Happy Gardening Steven On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Frank M <efgam@live.com> wrote: > > Re:3 Rhodophiala (Steven Hart)Hi there Steven I have grown a lot of > Rhodophialas over the past few years and I have had a very impressive > germination rate I basically use a cactus mix topped up with seed raising > mix and then on top of that I place the seeds , after placing the seeds on > top I then spread vermiculite on the seeds to retain moisture being mindful > that you don't let the the vermiculite become dry,the moist vermiculite > holds the seeds in place and off they go, having the cactus mix as the > bottom layer helps the water to disperse, as soon as a leaf appear's I begin > to apply a half strength seasol solution.After the second leaf pops up I > then introduce a mild application of a soluble nitrogen less than half > strength, the Rodophialas don't seem to mind these growing conditions one > bit. Frank > Sydney > > > From: pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 103, Issue 30 > > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:01:17 -0400 > > > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Rhodophialia (Kathleen Sayce) > > 2. Re: Rhodophialia (Hans-Werner Hammen) > > 3. Re: Rhodophialia (steven hart) > > 4. Re: Rhodophialia (patty allen) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:14:15 -0700 > > From: Kathleen Sayce <ksayce@willapabay.org> > > Subject: [pbs] Rhodophialia > > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > Message-ID: <B360B43A-4F90-4A8F-99CC-384189736081@willapabay.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > did u plant directly into seed raising mix or soe on top & > > cover with fine gravel or something ? > > > > I recantly planted hundreds of them before i saw they should be on top & > > ankered but not covered or they wont grow. > > > > Steven, > > I planted them on top of the soil in the pot with a layer of fine gravel > on top of that. They germinated very well, and then, every few days, the > sturdy little leaves were neatly nibbled off, clearly vole or mice-like > rather than slug-like. I put one pot inside a mesh cover I use for 50 or so > pots, to keep rodents off them, especially squirrels, and even so, that pot > gets nibbled back down every so often. They are squeezing through gaps less > than 1/2 inch wide to get inside. So I'm resorting to a finer mesh, complete > inclosure. > > I'll probably find that they shake the entire setup to get at the leaves. > : -) > > They leave the other leaves alone on pots in the present inclosure, which > include Pacifica iris, narcissus, moraea, etc. The Rhodophialia leaves are > their target, and must taste like candy to them. > > > > Kathleen > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 21:39:29 +0000 > > From: Hans-Werner Hammen <haweha@hotmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Rhodophialia > > To: pbs pbs <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > > Message-ID: <SNT139-W29FD602D2D6D5ADE66BA9CDD2B0@phx.gbl> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > Seedlings of Amaryllids, and their first leaf respectively, can actually > be consumed "invisibly" namely close to the soil level by the tiny maggots > of Fungus Gnats. No, I am not kidding. All of a sudden a leaf here and a > leaf there will drop down. Apply an agent that contains Imidaclopride or > Chlorpyrifos. > > > > > > > From: ksayce@willapabay.org > > > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:14:15 -0700 > > > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > Subject: [pbs] Rhodophialia > > ... ... ... > > > Steven, > > > I planted them on top of the soil in the pot with a layer of fine > gravel on top of that. They germinated very well, and then, every few days, > the sturdy little leaves were neatly nibbled off, clearly vole or mice-like > rather than slug-like. I put one pot inside a mesh cover I use for 50 or so > pots, to keep rodents off them, especially squirrels, and even so, that pot > gets nibbled back down every so often. They are squeezing through gaps less > than 1/2 inch wide to get inside. So I'm resorting to a finer mesh, complete > inclosure. > > > I'll probably find that they shake the entire setup to get at the > leaves. : -) > > > They leave the other leaves alone on pots in the present inclosure, > which include Pacifica iris, narcissus, moraea, etc. The Rhodophialia leaves > are their target, and must taste like candy to them. > > > > > > Kathleen > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:31:36 -0700 > > From: steven hart <hartsentwine.australia@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Rhodophialia > > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > > Message-ID: > > <CACm0T0f1KeXVf2dGA65nx9fxF= > m69S2buV2FwAN3rgu8LDXYqw@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Thanks Kathleen > > > > I'll do the same this time, i have lots to plant soon. I'm just starting > to > > collect them & gee there are some nice ones available. > > > > As for ur vermin, mind u i think squirrels are pretty cute ! > > > > The Peppermint Oil ! Ants & Mice dont particularly like it either, > although > > if its candy their after it might be too good to resist. Clove Oil is > good > > too. I sell essential oils & people tall me their little snippets all the > > time. > > > > There is a product that might be worth a try, it is a possum deterrent > > called Quasia Chip its from a quasia plant. I dont know if it works but i > > saw it when i was in the nursery industry. > > > > Best of luck ! > > Steven > > > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Kathleen Sayce <ksayce@willapabay.org > >wrote: > > > > > did u plant directly into seed raising mix or soe on top & > > > cover with fine gravel or something ? > > > > > > I recantly planted hundreds of them before i saw they should be on top > & > > > ankered but not covered or they wont grow. > > > > > > Steven, > > > I planted them on top of the soil in the pot with a layer of fine > gravel on > > > top of that. They germinated very well, and then, every few days, the > sturdy > > > little leaves were neatly nibbled off, clearly vole or mice-like rather > than > > > slug-like. I put one pot inside a mesh cover I use for 50 or so pots, > to > > > keep rodents off them, especially squirrels, and even so, that pot gets > > > nibbled back down every so often. They are squeezing through gaps less > than > > > 1/2 inch wide to get inside. So I'm resorting to a finer mesh, complete > > > inclosure. > > > I'll probably find that they shake the entire setup to get at the > leaves. > > > : -) > > > They leave the other leaves alone on pots in the present inclosure, > which > > > include Pacifica iris, narcissus, moraea, etc. The Rhodophialia leaves > are > > > their target, and must taste like candy to them. > > > > > > Kathleen > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 06:16:10 -0500 (GMT-05:00) > > From: patty allen <prallen2@peoplepc.com> > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Rhodophialia > > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > > Message-ID: > > < > 18059421.1313752570435.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > This post is to comment on how early my pink Rhodophiala bifidas began > blooming this year, despite our terribly dry conditions. I had my 1st pink > bloom the 1st day of August, where they normally start blooming at the > beginning of the 3rd week. > > Three days ago I noticed red Rhodophiala bifida blooming in 3 different > locations in my nursery beds, and they don't normally start blooming, at > their earliest until the last week of this month , then they really put on > a show starting the first week in September. > > Patty Allen > > Southeast Texas > > -----Original Message----- > > >From: Kathleen Sayce <ksayce@willapabay.org> > > >Sent: Aug 18, 2011 3:14 PM > > >To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > >Subject: [pbs] Rhodophialia > > > > > >did u plant directly into seed raising mix or soe on top & > > >cover with fine gravel or something ? > > > > > >I recantly planted hundreds of them before i saw they should be on top & > > >ankered but not covered or they wont grow. > > > > > >Steven, > > >I planted them on top of the soil in the pot with a layer of fine gravel > on top of that. They germinated very well, and then, every few days, the > sturdy little leaves were neatly nibbled off, clearly vole or mice-like > rather than slug-like. I put one pot inside a mesh cover I use for 50 or so > pots, to keep rodents off them, especially squirrels, and even so, that pot > gets nibbled back down every so often. They are squeezing through gaps less > than 1/2 inch wide to get inside. So I'm resorting to a finer mesh, complete > inclosure. > > >I'll probably find that they shake the entire setup to get at the > leaves. : -) > > >They leave the other leaves alone on pots in the present inclosure, > which include Pacifica iris, narcissus, moraea, etc. The Rhodophialia leaves > are their target, and must taste like candy to them. > > > > > >Kathleen > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >pbs mailing list > > >pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > PeoplePC Online > > A better way to Internet > > http://www.peoplepc.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > > > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 103, Issue 30 > > ************************************ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >