pbs Digest, Vol 103, Issue 30

Frank M efgam@live.com
Fri, 19 Aug 2011 22:12:13 PDT
Re:3 Rhodophiala (Steven Hart)Hi there Steven I have grown a lot of Rhodophialas over the past few years and I have had a very impressive germination rate I basically use a cactus mix topped up with seed raising mix and then on top of that I place the seeds , after placing the seeds on top I then spread vermiculite on the seeds to retain moisture being mindful that you don't let the the vermiculite become dry,the moist vermiculite holds the seeds in place and off they go, having the cactus mix as the bottom layer helps the water to disperse, as soon as a leaf appear's I begin to apply a half strength seasol solution.After the second leaf pops up I then introduce a mild application of a soluble nitrogen less than half strength, the Rodophialas don't seem to mind these growing conditions one bit. Frank
Sydney

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> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:14:15 -0700
> From: Kathleen Sayce <ksayce@willapabay.org>
> Subject: [pbs]  Rhodophialia
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> did u plant directly into seed raising mix or soe on top &
> cover with fine gravel or something ?
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> I recantly planted hundreds of them before i saw they should be on top &
> ankered but not covered or they wont grow.
> 
> Steven,
> I planted them on top of the soil in the pot with a layer of fine gravel on top of that. They germinated very well, and then, every few days, the sturdy little leaves were neatly nibbled off, clearly vole or mice-like rather than slug-like. I put one pot inside a mesh cover I use for 50 or so pots, to keep rodents off them, especially squirrels, and even so, that pot gets nibbled back down every so often. They are squeezing through gaps less than 1/2 inch wide to get inside. So I'm resorting to a finer mesh, complete inclosure. 
> I'll probably find that they shake the entire setup to get at the leaves.  : -)
> They leave the other leaves alone on pots in the present inclosure, which include Pacifica iris, narcissus, moraea, etc. The Rhodophialia leaves are their target, and must taste like candy to them.
> 
> Kathleen
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> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 21:39:29 +0000
> From: Hans-Werner Hammen <haweha@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Rhodophialia
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> Seedlings of Amaryllids, and their first leaf respectively, can actually be consumed "invisibly" namely close to the soil level by the tiny maggots of Fungus Gnats. No, I am not kidding. All of a sudden a leaf here and a leaf there will drop down. Apply an agent that contains Imidaclopride or Chlorpyrifos.
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> > From: ksayce@willapabay.org
> > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:14:15 -0700
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> > Subject: [pbs] Rhodophialia
> ... ... ...
> > Steven,
> > I planted them on top of the soil in the pot with a layer of fine gravel on top of that. They germinated very well, and then, every few days, the sturdy little leaves were neatly nibbled off, clearly vole or mice-like rather than slug-like. I put one pot inside a mesh cover I use for 50 or so pots, to keep rodents off them, especially squirrels, and even so, that pot gets nibbled back down every so often. They are squeezing through gaps less than 1/2 inch wide to get inside. So I'm resorting to a finer mesh, complete inclosure. 
> > I'll probably find that they shake the entire setup to get at the leaves. : -)
> > They leave the other leaves alone on pots in the present inclosure, which include Pacifica iris, narcissus, moraea, etc. The Rhodophialia leaves are their target, and must taste like candy to them.
> > 
> > Kathleen
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> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:31:36 -0700
> From: steven hart <hartsentwine.australia@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Rhodophialia
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> Thanks Kathleen
> 
> I'll do the same this time, i have lots to plant soon. I'm just starting to
> collect them & gee there are some nice ones available.
> 
> As for ur vermin, mind u i think squirrels are pretty cute !
> 
> The Peppermint Oil ! Ants & Mice dont particularly like it either, although
> if its candy their after it might be too good to resist. Clove Oil is good
> too. I sell essential oils & people tall me their little snippets all the
> time.
> 
> There is a product that might be worth a try, it is a possum deterrent
> called Quasia Chip its from a quasia plant. I dont know if it works but i
> saw it when i was in the nursery industry.
> 
> Best of luck !
> Steven
> 
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Kathleen Sayce <ksayce@willapabay.org>wrote:
> 
> > did u plant directly into seed raising mix or soe on top &
> > cover with fine gravel or something ?
> >
> > I recantly planted hundreds of them before i saw they should be on top &
> > ankered but not covered or they wont grow.
> >
> > Steven,
> > I planted them on top of the soil in the pot with a layer of fine gravel on
> > top of that. They germinated very well, and then, every few days, the sturdy
> > little leaves were neatly nibbled off, clearly vole or mice-like rather than
> > slug-like. I put one pot inside a mesh cover I use for 50 or so pots, to
> > keep rodents off them, especially squirrels, and even so, that pot gets
> > nibbled back down every so often. They are squeezing through gaps less than
> > 1/2 inch wide to get inside. So I'm resorting to a finer mesh, complete
> > inclosure.
> > I'll probably find that they shake the entire setup to get at the leaves.
> >  : -)
> > They leave the other leaves alone on pots in the present inclosure, which
> > include Pacifica iris, narcissus, moraea, etc. The Rhodophialia leaves are
> > their target, and must taste like candy to them.
> >
> > Kathleen
> >
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> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 06:16:10 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> From: patty allen <prallen2@peoplepc.com>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Rhodophialia
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> This post is to comment on how early my pink Rhodophiala bifidas began blooming this year, despite our terribly dry conditions. I had my 1st pink bloom the 1st day of August, where they normally start blooming at the beginning of the 3rd week.
> Three days ago I noticed red Rhodophiala bifida blooming in 3 different locations in my nursery beds, and they don't normally start blooming, at their earliest until the last week of this month , then they  really put on a show starting the first week in September.
> Patty Allen
> Southeast Texas
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> >From: Kathleen Sayce <ksayce@willapabay.org>
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> >Subject: [pbs]  Rhodophialia
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> >did u plant directly into seed raising mix or soe on top &
> >cover with fine gravel or something ?
> >
> >I recantly planted hundreds of them before i saw they should be on top &
> >ankered but not covered or they wont grow.
> >
> >Steven,
> >I planted them on top of the soil in the pot with a layer of fine gravel on top of that. They germinated very well, and then, every few days, the sturdy little leaves were neatly nibbled off, clearly vole or mice-like rather than slug-like. I put one pot inside a mesh cover I use for 50 or so pots, to keep rodents off them, especially squirrels, and even so, that pot gets nibbled back down every so often. They are squeezing through gaps less than 1/2 inch wide to get inside. So I'm resorting to a finer mesh, complete inclosure. 
> >I'll probably find that they shake the entire setup to get at the leaves.  : -)
> >They leave the other leaves alone on pots in the present inclosure, which include Pacifica iris, narcissus, moraea, etc. The Rhodophialia leaves are their target, and must taste like candy to them.
> >
> >Kathleen
> >
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