Thank you for rounding out and extending my position, (This from a guy who is planning to throw out and recycle an entire set (missing one) of the ASI Yearbook. WiIl check to see if our local library wants it, first. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Hansen" <hansennursery@coosnet.com> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [pbs] membership renewal > Dennis, > > I'm glad you brought this subject up. Emerald Chapter, NARGS, e-mails its > newsletters in color to nearly all members. However, some of our older > members without computers must receive a paper copy, which is in black and > white. > > I e-mail my catalog to most customers, but there are those for whom, for > whatever reason, need to receive paper copies. I have discovered that > there are still a lot of us in very rural areas who cannot get high-speed > internet and must rely on dial-up. > > Cable is out. I don't have a television and cannot justify the expense. > When and if Frontier provides the DSL option, I will probably sign up, > although it irks me no end because since they took over from Verizon, the > dial-up service has seriously deteriorated. I hear DSL has as well, if > they are in rural areas. Our ISP has made formal complaint to no avail. > > PBS has some options but they are not viable for everyone. Smaller press > runs cost more, generally speaking. By the way, I'm not speaking for PBS > on this - I've based it on our experience with NARGS Emerald Chapter. And > I could still be wrong... > > I, for one, prefer paper. I do not have unlimited capacity for storing > electronic files. In looking up a subject stored on paper, I stumble > across others and can refresh my memory or answer a number of questions at > the same time. > > There is really a misunderstanding of the word "green". Coming form an > accounting background, the powers that be would have us believe that > "green" is good. It is not always. An electric car, for example, does > reduce the use of oil and other oil-based products, but it still has a > high consumption of energy. It has to be recharged. Where does that > electricity come from? From coal-fired plants, from hydro power, and > other sources that are do not regenerate. Wind farms are not the most > efficient source and they are a serious detriment to animals and the > environment. Computer manufacturing uses up resources that are difficult > to recover, and the search and mining for rare earth minerals can be > devastating. > > Paper can last 200 or more years. There is serious debate about how long > a CD lasts, probably a few years at most, with proper storage. Microfiche > lasts about 100 years. Then searching computer archives a hundred years > from now is quite likely to be problematic. The US government has many > years of Social Security records on tape that it no longer has the > equipment to read in any large capacity, if at all. > > At least I can recycle my nursery pots and poly greenhouse covering, and > my used soil mix. And I can pass on my paper journals to those who are > interested, including, to my amazement, a daughter and a grandson who have > discovered a serious interest in gardening. > > For those who are willing and able to receive electronic media, I say have > at it. For others, it's problematic. One final note - and perhaps Jane > McGary and Jane Merryman can answer this one. The setup for printing a > paper catalog differs clearly from setup for e-mailing. Would this be a > problem? > > Robin Hansen > Hansen Nursery > briefly clear and sunny and 33 F > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dennis Kramb > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:05 AM > Subject: [pbs] membership renewal > > > Is there any talk of PBS offering a cheaper, greener membership level? > One > where the newsletters/bulletins are emailed electronically rather than > printed, published, and mailed via USPS? > > I ask because it's that time of year to renew my membership... and it'd > be > really cool to have this option. Honestly speaking I don't save my > newsletters/bulletins from any society (except for the Aril Society's > yearbooks which are just too awesome for words). I used to try to save > everything, but it became a burden, and a downright mess in my household. > > But if I had them electronically in PDF format, well that would be > another > story (one with a happy ending!). > > Dennis in Cincinnati > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/ > Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3270 - Release Date: 11/21/10 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/