Hmmm...Anyone have a good spiny form of M. echinata? Richard -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Roy Herold Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 2:21 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Massonia question Paul, The pustules are definitely age related, and will show up in the second or third year after sowing. The BX247 bulbs that I sent in this year were from a very crowded seed pot (sorry!), and are probably a bit behind in development. All of the seedlings that I have grown of this selection eventually develop pustules. They will not flower until after the pustules show up, or so it seems. That said, there are smooth or nearly smooth forms of M. pustulata. Paul Cumbleton from Wisley sent some seeds from a 'few pustules' form to BX181. These were sown in 2008, and all are now at the two-leaf stage, with no visible pustules. Some regular pustulata sown at the same time are covered with pustules, not as heavily as a mature plant, and none appear to have buds. There is also a pustulate leaved form of M. jasminiflora. Seeds from Penroc, also sown in 2008, have resulted in very attractive plants that will bloom this year (jasminifloras seem to be quite precocious). These seem to have colored pustules with a green leaf surface. The coloration of M. pustulata is more in the form of blotches and streaks on the leaf surface that go right through the pustules without changing color (got that?). Good luck...