I have Google Quotes of the Day installed on my pc. One from today seems relevant to this discussion, or rather to what I’m trying to do with it. The quote is: To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other. - Jack Handey If that makes sense to you, then surely my bulb/corm rants will, too. Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, 39.03871º North, 77.09829º West, USDA zone 7, where the winter aconites have already scattered their seed. My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/