Yes, We need some informed rationality here. I may jut drop my membership in The Nature Conserfancy after I hear from them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Avent" <tony@plantdelights.com> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [pbs] Fwd: Importation of Plants for Planting; Establishing a Category of Plants for Planting Not Authorized for Importation Pending Pest Risk Analysis - Proposed rule > Adam, Lee: > > You point out the absurdity of such a regulation. If this was in place, > we would not have thousands of plants that we enjoy today from impatiens > to lantana. The best models miss 40% of the plants. Any intelligent > scientist will tell you that it is impossible to predict invasiveness > for each habitat within each ecological region. I had a meeting a > couple of years ago with one of the scientists developing this and we > had this same discussion. Off the record, he admitted that it couldn't > work, but he said that his superiors were demanding it, based on the > rants from radical groups such as the Nature Conservancy, who has taken > an ethnic cleansing stand on this issue. Everyone needs to call USDA > Aphis and their legislatures before it is too late. > > Tony Avent > Plant Delights Nursery @ > Juniper Level Botanic Garden > 9241 Sauls Road > Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA > Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F > Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F > USDA Hardiness Zone 7b > email tony@plantdelights.com > website http://www.plantdelights.com/ > phone 919 772-4794 > fax 919 772-4752 > "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least > three times" - Avent > > > > Adam Fikso wrote: >> It surely could be a problem. A plant that's invasive ihn Florida can >> barely survive in the Chicago area, or be grown only in a greenhouse., >> If >> this isn't taken account of --the effort is stupid--example: Bomarea >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lee Poulsen" <wpoulsen@pacbell.net> >> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>; >> <IBSMEMBERS@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:03 PM >> Subject: [pbs] Fwd: Importation of Plants for Planting; Establishing a >> Category of Plants for Planting Not Authorized for Importation Pending >> Pest >> Risk Analysis - Proposed rule >> >> >> >>> I just got this notice. Is this proposed new category and rules >>> something we should be worried about? It kind of sounds like a good >>> effort to control the entry of potential new weeds or pests. On the >>> other hand, would it make it inordinately difficult to import something >>> that we all know is perfectly safe? >>> >>> --Lee Poulsen >>> Pasadena, California, USDA Zone 10a >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Importation of Plants for Planting; Establishing a Category of >>> Plants for Planting Not Authorized for Importation Pending Pest Risk >>> Analysis - Proposed rule >>> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:31:24 -0400 >>> From: PPQ_Stakeholder_Registry@aphis.usda.gov >>> To: wpoulsen@pacbell.net >>> >>> >>> >>> Greetings PPQ Stakeholders, >>> >>> You are receiving this email alert because you signed >>> up >>> with USDA-APHIS-PPQ's Stakeholders' Registry to receive >>> information related to the importation of plants. If >>> you >>> would like to have your name removed from the >>> Stakeholders Registry list please send an email to >>> Linda.Toran@aphis.usda.gov. If you would like to make >>> a >>> change in your topics of interest please go to: >>> https://web01.aphis.usda.gov/PPQStakeWeb2.nsf. >>> >>> We are proposing to establish a new category of >>> regulated >>> articles in the regulations governing the importation >>> of >>> nursery stock, also known as plants for planting. This >>> category would list taxa of plants for planting whose >>> importation is not authorized pending pest risk >>> analysis. >>> If scientific evidence indicated that the taxon of >>> plants >>> for planting is a potential quarantine pest or a >>> potential host of a quarantine pest, we would publish a >>> notice that would announce our determination that the >>> taxon is a potential quarantine pest or a potential >>> host >>> of a quarantine pest, cite the scientific evidence we >>> considered in making this determination, and give the >>> public an opportunity to comment on our determination. >>> If we received no comments that changed our >>> determination, the taxon would subsequently be added to >>> the new category. >>> >>> APHIS will consider all comments received on this >>> Docket >>> No. APHIS-2006-0011 on or before October 21, 2009. >>> >>> For additional information go to: >>> >>> http://regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/… >>> . >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >> >> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/