Adam: I hope you will read the Nature Conservancy's position paper posted all over the Internet...I have also been a member in the past. This is truly frightening. Tony Avent Plant Delights Nursery @ Juniper Level Botanic Garden 9241 Sauls Road Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F USDA Hardiness Zone 7b email tony@plantdelights.com website http://www.plantdelights.com/ phone 919 772-4794 fax 919 772-4752 "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent Adam Fikso wrote: > Yes, We need some informed rationality here. I may jut drop my membership > in The Nature Conserfancy after I hear from them. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Avent" <tony@plantdelights.com> > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 2:27 PM > Subject: Re: [pbs] Fwd: Importation of Plants for Planting; Establishing a > Category of Plants for Planting Not Authorized for Importation Pending Pest > Risk Analysis - Proposed rule > > > >> Adam, Lee: >> >> You point out the absurdity of such a regulation. If this was in place, >> we would not have thousands of plants that we enjoy today from impatiens >> to lantana. The best models miss 40% of the plants. Any intelligent >> scientist will tell you that it is impossible to predict invasiveness >> for each habitat within each ecological region. I had a meeting a >> couple of years ago with one of the scientists developing this and we >> had this same discussion. Off the record, he admitted that it couldn't >> work, but he said that his superiors were demanding it, based on the >> rants from radical groups such as the Nature Conservancy, who has taken >> an ethnic cleansing stand on this issue. Everyone needs to call USDA >> Aphis and their legislatures before it is too late. >> >> Tony Avent >> Plant Delights Nursery @ >> Juniper Level Botanic Garden >> 9241 Sauls Road >> Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA >> Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F >> Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F >> USDA Hardiness Zone 7b >> email tony@plantdelights.com >> website http://www.plantdelights.com/ >> phone 919 772-4794 >> fax 919 772-4752 >> "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least >> three times" - Avent >> >> >> >> Adam Fikso wrote: >> >>> It surely could be a problem. A plant that's invasive ihn Florida can >>> barely survive in the Chicago area, or be grown only in a greenhouse., >>> If >>> this isn't taken account of --the effort is stupid--example: Bomarea >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Lee Poulsen" <wpoulsen@pacbell.net> >>> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>; >>> <IBSMEMBERS@yahoogroups.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:03 PM >>> Subject: [pbs] Fwd: Importation of Plants for Planting; Establishing a >>> Category of Plants for Planting Not Authorized for Importation Pending >>> Pest >>> Risk Analysis - Proposed rule >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> I just got this notice. Is this proposed new category and rules >>>> something we should be worried about? It kind of sounds like a good >>>> effort to control the entry of potential new weeds or pests. On the >>>> other hand, would it make it inordinately difficult to import something >>>> that we all know is perfectly safe? >>>> >>>> --Lee Poulsen >>>> Pasadena, California, USDA Zone 10a >>>> >>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> Subject: Importation of Plants for Planting; Establishing a Category of >>>> Plants for Planting Not Authorized for Importation Pending Pest Risk >>>> Analysis - Proposed rule >>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:31:24 -0400 >>>> From: PPQ_Stakeholder_Registry@aphis.usda.gov >>>> To: wpoulsen@pacbell.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Greetings PPQ Stakeholders, >>>> >>>> You are receiving this email alert because you signed >>>> up >>>> with USDA-APHIS-PPQ's Stakeholders' Registry to receive >>>> information related to the importation of plants. If >>>> you >>>> would like to have your name removed from the >>>> Stakeholders Registry list please send an email to >>>> Linda.Toran@aphis.usda.gov. 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