Hi all, Here in central Indiana, USDA cold zone 5, I've not had good luck with the Narcissus cantabricus forms I've raised from seed. They do not survive at all outdoors in the ground, and in the cool greenhouse they dwindle away, almost never blooming. N. calcicola, N. rupicola, N. assoanus, and N. fernandesii have survived in the raised bed rock garden for several years. Only N. calcicola and N. fernandesii still survive, and only calcicola blooms now. None of these did well in pots in the cool greenhouse! N. bulbocodium conspicuus and N. b. nivalis survive outdoors in the ground in regular flower beds, but I think only conspicuus is still blooming each spring. Jim Shields in chilly, rainy central Indiana (USA) ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA