Changing the name of the group is not very modest in terms of the load of work it would create. You would need to change your name with the IRS, bank accounts, and most of all with your list and wiki provider. Your most valuable archives and wiki information and links to it may well be lost for future searches. An awful lot of effort to make these thousands of changes would mean less time for work on new information and expanding the current images and cultural information resources. You don't have any "staff" to do this, just a very few very dedicated volunteers. Please think about this carefully. I particularly like Jane's sensible definition of "Pacific". Bob Rutemoeller brutem@mcn.org