Hi Plant Friends, This afternoon I checked 15 pots of old Lilium sp. seed that had been sown October 2006. They were plunged on the south side of my greenhouse and covered with fir branches as protection against hungry birds. I am not certain of their source, but I think the most likely source was from the Sonora County Chapter (California) of North American Rock Garden Society . The chapter had a box of undistributed NARGS seeds. I knew at that time I was moving to "God's Country" i.e. Gresham, Oregon. Gresham is just to the east of Portland, Oregon, in the Willamette Valley. As such it is pretty good Lilium territory. I sampled heavily of Lilium species. I noted the seed packets were identified by location so concluded they had been wild collected. Notice the dates on the germinated pots. Pretty amazing. Liliumhumboltii9-14-89 Liliumhumboltii9-18-89 Liliumhumboltii9-8-95 Liliumhumboltii9-28-91 Liliumhumboltii9-28-91 Liliumparvum8-27-93 Liliumparvum1990 Liliumparvum9-8-90 Liliumrubescense1990 Liliumrubescense8-19-90 Liliumwashingtonianum9-15-90 Liliumwashingtonianum minor?9-27-90 Joyce E. Miller Gresham, Oregon USAUSDA 7