Neomarica
Max Withers (Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:55:57 PDT)

Dear All,

Our list is indeed an amazing resource, although in this case I think
the internet as a whole, including google and the Universidade Estadual
de Campinhas deserve some credit too.

And as long as we are distributing credit, the lions' share should go to
Lindolpho Capellari Junior, whose dissertation furnishes the key under
discussion (it is a 21 MB pdf, so download at your own risk). In fact,
the diagram of N. gracilis on the wiki is taken, without any
acknowledgment, from this dissertation. Surely the source should be
indicated?

The usefulness of the internet in this instance is instructive: it's
useful because it points us to "definitive" information that Jim (and,
I'm sure, most of the rest of us) longs for. This information is --
still -- contained in a book.

This leads me to suggest that we improve the wiki by including a
reference to a definitive -- or at least standard -- source for each
genus. It's clear that those of us who write the descriptions are using
these sources. Why not list them?

Best,
Max

Message: 11 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:24:48 -0700 From: Mary Sue
Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> Subject: Re: [pbs] Neomarica -stumbling
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<5.2.0.9.2.20070605070707.03414680@mail.mcn.org> Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi, Thanks David for
adding the pictures and more information to the wiki. Max Withers
translated the web pages from Maurice Bossard for me and with that and
the information from David it appears that the two species that people
get mixed up about are not N. gracilis and N. northiana, but N.
northiana and N. candida. I can see how that would happen by looking
at the pictures on the wiki. Max has also found a link with a key in
answer to Jim's desires:
http://libdigi.unicamp.br/document/… The summary of
the article is also in English, but it appears that the article and
the key is in Portuguese apparently. Max says there is a member of our
list who might be able to translate the key for us or perhaps for the
people who are most interested. Lee translated a Leucocoryne key for
me a number of years ago and I found it very helpful in sorting out
the plants I was growing. Our list is an amazing resource. Mary Sue

I am still wishing for something vaguely definitive in
identifying Neomarica sp - a key perhaps.