unfort. when i was there, i was only in victoria and did not get to travel much around the island. in addition to the butchart garden and the crystal palace within victoria, there's also a butterfly conservatory whose name i forgot. it's small as is the crystal palace, but it can be interesting if you have the time to visit. victoria itself is very pretty and i enjoyed staying there for 3 nights. the people were very friendly too and the food was good. of course, if you are in vancouver itself, you should visit the van dusen (spelling?) gardens. ========= tsuh yang ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com/