Since my pleas asking people not to include the previous messages in their responses often get ignored, I wasn't sure it would help to remind everyone that is really does help to change the subject headings when you change the subject. This list has more than 430 members and most of them don't read every message and look to the subject to give them a clue whether to read the message or just delete it. Lately the subject headings wouldn't help a lot. Plus for those who read the archives or do a search on Google and just look at the subject they would never go much further. And at least one subscribers email has been rejecting messages with inappropriate content. I'm not sure what this is, but it could be "Na.ed" ladies. So since John brought it up, I going to ask you please to change the subject heading to fit the subject when this is needed. And please don't include the previous message, but if you must, only the part you are responding to. To those of you who already do this, thanks from all of us. Mary Sue