Jim: I don't grow Brunsvigia orientalis, so I only can compare between the available images on the web. It does appear to me the pedical length is significantly shorter in the "primary" cross, compared to B. orientalis. The overall flower shape and posture, including style and filaments looks very similar to the other examples of B. orientalis. Color can't be trusted at all in a photo comparison, but color seems a bit different. It would be nice to see the foliage. The foliage would be somewhere in the middle in characteristics, I would guess. Technically, I could be convinced the floral characteristics mixed, but the taller, narrower foliage of Lycoris sprengeri would surely influence the characteristics. I'm vague on what little plant breeding training I received in college, but I seem to recall some forms of dominance that could mask 50/50 phenotypic characteristics in a primary cross??????????????? If it were fertile, it would surely be easier to tell in selfed seedling population. If it were infertile, that might be telling, too. Mr. Kelly M. Irvin 10850 Hodge Ln Gravette, AR 72736 USA 479-787-9958 USDA Cold Hardiness Zone 6a/b mailto:kelly@irvincentral.com http://www.irvincentral.com/