Oops. When I wrote "reluctant to draw a sharp line of separation between what traditionally have been known as Lilium grayi (such as the ones in my images on the wiki) and the evidently numerous plants found in southeastern Virginia which clearly show the influence of both Lilium grayi and L. canadense..." Make that southwestern Virginia. The plant traditionally known as Lilium grayi definitely does not occur in southeastern Virginia and I would be surprised to hear that Lilium canadense does. Jim McKenney