Dear All, I want to thank Jay for all the hours and hours he has put in to create the wiki Narcissus (and Crinum) pages. For those people who do not have all the reference books to figure it out, this will be invaluable. And often he shows a picture of the flower from the front and the side and in the garden as well. His garden during Narcissus season has to be amazing. I wish I lived close enough to visit it. Thanks Kathy for the link as that will be so helpful to figure out which division some of the unidentified plants belong in. Is there a source like this for the Miniatures? I know that Bill Dijk was really hoping we could have all the miniatures on one page, but I'm not sure how you can tell what they are from the pictures. And without text to explain the picture, the task is impossible. I'm still hoping one of the Narcissus experts is going to help with some text for some of the subspecies and varieties in the John Lonsdale species pictures we added to the wiki. I've asked a number of people privately, but so far this information has been difficult to secure. Even if there is no agreement, it would be nice to be able to explain this as Jane McGary has done with pictures she has added. So I guess this is a general plea. Could anyone supply some text where there is little for the Narcissus species: http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… If willing and not an approved wiki user, I can add you as editing and adding text is very easy. Or send me the words and I'll add them. Thanks. Mary Sue