Don asked >Does anyone know anything re. the Collector's Nursey in Battle Ground, WA >that might explain why they are not responding to e-mail or phone messages? Collector's Nursery is in the process of dismantling their stock and closing down the nursery. I don't think they would deliberately fail to ship your order, Don, but perhaps you can phone them at the number in the catalog and remind them. One of the proprietors, Bill Janssen, is in very poor health, and the other, Diana Reeck, finds it impossible to keep up with the work alone. Other nursery growers in this area are buying some of the stock, especially the woody plants. Diana is running a 50% off sale on site at the nursery into mid-December. Jane McGary