Ton, When we were doing the topic of the week, Martin Philippo who has taken a passionate interest in Muscari, provided the topic of the week. His enthusiasm certainly got my attention. He is no longer a member of our list, but I suggest you visit his website, http://home-3.tiscali.nl/~hennessy/ and contact him through it to get help. Since you are both in the Netherlands this should work well. Mary Sue