Brook Klehm asked about growing Knowltonia (Ranunculaceae, from South Africa) outdoors in the PNW. The Heronswood Nursery catalogue (i.e. Dan Hinkley) suggests that K. capensis is growable outside in the Seattle area 'we have cultivated it much longer in our woodland at Heronswood. ... in partial shade and evenly moist soil, or in containers.' As Jane said, however, the microclimate at Heronswood is exceptionally favourable. Inspired by Dan's enthusiasm I planted my only specimen in the ground at my parents' garden in Maidenhead (near London) a few years ago, but it has dwindled to one leaf which I came across the other day & wondered what it was before remembering. On that experience I couldn't recommend growing this demurely charming plant outside in southern England. John Grimshaw Dr John M. Grimshaw Garden Manager, Colesbourne Gardens Sycamore Cottage Colesbourne Nr Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL53 9NP Website: http://www.colesbournegardens.org.uk/