Dear all: My saffon corms were purchased some 20 years ago from the de Jager & Sons firm, New York. I don't know if they are in the business nowadays. They had excellent stocks of all kinds of hardy bulbs and each one was huge and flawless (priced accordingly). In this climate, app. zone 9 b in winter and zone 10 in summer with year round rains and very rich alkaline soils, saffron crocuses are almost a weed. They are in a raised bed for themselves and flower reliably every April. Flowers are huge and they (fortunately) never showed any striking (that in crocuses invariably means virus). They show the same original vigour and only the really big ones flower year after year. These have been left in place for over eight years now and in those cases they had to be dug the flowering corms were found at 30-40 cm deep (12-16 in.). They are really large plants only suitable for beds and tubs, not for normal pots. Kathy, there are not two clones, their behaviour depends on the depth at which the corms are. If not planted really deep, they will use theri flowering energy in burying themselves deeper. Jim has mentioned most facts about this rather undemanding crop. Curcuma (turmeric) is the spice used in Indian cooking rather than saffron. Saffron was used as a priced dye at first and later as a spice. As for Carthamus this is a nice beeding plant for hot dry positions. It is a dye and not really a spice. In our humid climate saffron is produced abundantly but the scent is not as strong as that obtained in a drier region. The practice mentioned by Angelo (they do the same in Spain) of replanting in manure enriched soil (something unthinkable for most bulbs) must be understood in the context of poor soils in dryish climates. Best regards Alberto in Buenos Aires where saffron leaves are dry and the corms have just entered dormancy. Ants love saffron foliage _________________________________________________________________ Las mejores tiendas, los precios mas bajos, entregas en todo el mundo, YupiMSN Compras: http://latam.msn.com/compras/