David, You must have a inferior form. The numerous flowers are a bout 8-10cm in diameter (3"). At the moment the plants are 3m high (10ft) The shoots which will bear the buds are now lengthening quickly and flowers will be at about 4 m high. Foliage is not as fine as the Melia trees. The major problems here are very strong winds in the Novembre - Decembre period (laste year we wre left with flowers on stems without leaves) and frosts down below -4° (23°F) will burn the leaves. But for the time being the planting is a magnificient row of 120m long and 3m high. If all goes well I will show you some pictures. Greetings le 18/10/05 13:45, David Victor à davidxvictor@mailblocks.com a écrit : > In any event, the blooms are small and insignificant, but its worth growing > for its foliage. Lauw de Jager http://www.bulbargence.com/ South of France (zone 8 Olivier)