On 15 Oct 05 at 23:36, Brook Klehm wrote: > As I am about to move to Seattle from Sebastopol, California, > ... I'm bringing the Cyclamens, Sternbergia lutea, Lycoris > radiata that were in the ground here (in gopher baskets) and > will be digging up Amaryllis and Nerines soon. Should I > worry? ("Be afraid, be very afraid!!!" ?) Seattle residents will have to address the rodent issue -- all we have here in Victoria are mice, rats, and introduced gray squirrels. Two things I do know you need to worry about: microclimate and narcissus flies. The climate varies wildly from place to place in the Puget Sound/Georgia Strait trough. Pick the right location and your bulbs will thrive mightily; pick the wrong location and oops! The major climatic factors to consider are annual rainfall and winter cold. Annual rainfall varies from less than 20" (in the SE corner of Victoria and in Sequim, Washington state iirc) to over 200" (up in the Cascade foothills SE of Seattle). Winter cold depends on how far you are from saltwater (the "saltchuck" - might as well start learning the local lingo now) and what kind of topographic shelter you have from the north and northeast. We get outflows of extremely cold arctic air some winters (not always), and these will challenge your marginally hardy bulbs. There was a real doozy in February 1989 that froze the ground a good foot deep in places; it was a three-times-a-century blast. You always have warning about these because they arise (not invariably) from high pressure systems in Alaska, and the Yukon. Narcissus flies: they will make short work of your Lycoris radiata, as well as many of the finer narcissus cultivars, esp. those with N. triandrus blood. You might be lucky and end up in an area they haven't colonized, but here in Victoria they are ubiquitous because of the feral daffodils everywhere, tough old \cultivars that play Typhoid Mary. I understand that they are considerably less common around Seattle. > There's so much to learn when gardening in a new climate and > locale. I have no idea what to expect. I look forward to the > challenge but worry about losing some favored plants. But otoh (on the other hand) there are plants that were a dead loss in Sebastopol which thrive in Seattle. Please don't bring sudden oak death along with you, btw. It's here, but the less the better. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Maritime Zone 8, a cool Mediterranean climate on beautiful Vancouver Island