I heartily agree - this is a stunning plant. Saw it on road verges there last year, its bright red flowers (maroon is too dull!) easily visible from the car. But seeds should be gathered only when fully ripe and about to fall, if local regulations permit. John Grimshaw Dr John M. Grimshaw Garden Manager, Colesbourne Gardens Sycamore Cottage Colesbourne Nr Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL53 9NP Website: http://www.colesbournegardens.org.uk/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myke Ashley-Cooper" <myke@new.co.za> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:48 AM Subject: [pbs] Babiana villosa > At the east end of the village that I live in, Tulbagh, South Africa, there is a stunning endemic maroon Babiana villosa which apparently only grows in this tiny area. Must I wait until the seeds are fully ripened before harvesting them or can they be picked green? >