Dear all: I could not help but respond to this thread. I completely agree with Jim and even think the problem is underemphasized. Crinus are a great problem because they are so robust that can mask virus symptoms for many years at the same time acting as a reservoir for the disease.. Of course virus grown from seed are in theory virus free!. A lot of the gorgeous named hybrids are infected and spread virus to lots of other amaryllids (that do show symptoms readily). I can mention two other infection forms both of which I witnessed: one with a shovel used for digging different amaryllids after digging a virused Crinum and the other from watering from below many pots with plants. Don't ask me which is the mechanism in this latter case (root nematodes???) because I am still wondering. Fortunately the number of concerned growers is increasing and you can even find nurseries that give you a sort of guarantee of seed grown plants in their stock. YES TO FUN WITH BULBS! NO TO THEIR DESTRUCTION BY VIRUSES! Regards Alberto _________________________________________________________________ Charla con tus amigos en lĂnea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.latam.msn.com/