David, The flowers look rather like Crinum moorei to me, but I'm not so sure about the leaves. C. moorei does prefer shade, but here (in containers) it blooms in late summer. Of course, that is after having been stored cool and bone-dry in the dark over winter. When my moorei do set seed, it tends not to germinate; but it is large, rounded but "lumpy" in appearance, and on the soft side compared to seeds of, e.g., Crinum bulbispermum. Jim Shields in central Indiana (USA) At 03:36 AM 1/9/2004 -0800, David Sneddon wrote: >Found this crinum late spring (November in Australia) but didn't know if >it set seed then (hence some of you are seeing it again). I can now >confirm it does set seed which looks like the soft fruit of the macadama nut. > >When placed in a sunny aspect the leaves become crispy (it's growing in >the shade in this pic). > >http://ausbulbs.org/bulbgal/details.php/… > >http://ausbulbs.org/bulbgal/details.php/… > >http://ausbulbs.org/bulbgal/details.php/… > >Any assistance to identify this would be appreciated. ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA Member of INTERNATIONAL CLIVIA CO-OP